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Want to Win a Bike Race? Hack Your Rival's Wireless Shifters

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Re: Want to Win a Bike Race? Hack Your Rival's Wireless Shifters

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Opening paragraph is weird. Tacks on the road is not a dirty cheating trick but vandalism, potentially basque regional 'terrorism'. And motors has only been found use once (1) used by a junior rider, its a non-issue and everyone saying its not are spreading fud. If anything cycling is one of the sports with the least cheating. Even doping is minuscule now compared to most other sports.

This is gear shifter hack also not going to be an issue. If you wanted to ruing your rivals, you'll just pass them a bottle with trace amounts of growth hormones and their career is over. That doesn't happen, again showing that illegally cheating to destroy your opponents is super rare in cycling.

In the end its much easier to get a helper to crash out your rival than sitting ready hack him in the final sprint and hoping its just down to him and your own rider. Or just hack the whole sprint field and hope it wont get investigated I guess.

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In my opinion, this is partially the fault of big tech and the internet, because the internet has raised the stakes again for winning. Yes, people have always cheated, but the media exposure and social media exposure for winning makes cheating even more lucrative. In my mind, near-instantaneous transmission of information for the world to see is a seriously bad thing.

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post #2

Opening paragraph is weird. Tacks on the road is not a dirty cheating trick but vandalism, potentially basque regional 'terrorism'. And motors has only been found use once (1) used by a junior rider, its a non-issue and everyone saying its not are spreading fud. If anything cycling is one of the sports with the least cheating. Even doping is minuscule now compared to most other sports. This is gear shifter hack also…

> cheating to destroy your opponents is super rare in cycling

If that's actually true, cycling has a long way to go to align its reputation with respect to cheating with the reality. My view as an outsider to cycling is much closer to "cheating is absolutely rampant" than "cheating is super rare".

Re: Want to Win a Bike Race? Hack Your Rival's Wireless Shifters

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post #2

Opening paragraph is weird. Tacks on the road is not a dirty cheating trick but vandalism, potentially basque regional 'terrorism'. And motors has only been found use once (1) used by a junior rider, its a non-issue and everyone saying its not are spreading fud. If anything cycling is one of the sports with the least cheating. Even doping is minuscule now compared to most other sports. This is gear shifter hack also…

How do you know doping is rare?

Re: Want to Win a Bike Race? Hack Your Rival's Wireless Shifters

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post #5
post #2

Opening paragraph is weird. Tacks on the road is not a dirty cheating trick but vandalism, potentially basque regional 'terrorism'. And motors has only been found use once (1) used by a junior rider, its a non-issue and everyone saying its not are spreading fud. If anything cycling is one of the sports with the least cheating. Even doping is minuscule now compared to most other sports. This is gear shifter hack also…

> cheating to destroy your opponents is super rare in cycling If that's actually true, cycling has a long way to go to align its reputation with respect to cheating with the reality. My view as an outsider to cycling is much closer to "cheating is absolutely rampant" than "cheating is super rare".

this particular type of cheating is extremely rare

the kind of cheating that involves doping is rampant, because along with running, cycling is one of the sport where technique is the most dwarfed by pure physical abilities

Re: Want to Win a Bike Race? Hack Your Rival's Wireless Shifters

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post #4

So how much is gained by wireless shifting?

How much what?

Wireless (and generally electronic) shifters are likely heavier on account of the battery. In theory they require less maintenance as they don’t have the breakage-prone cables. Shifts are quicker and require less force to activate, and also more precise because they don’t depend on the finicky adjustment screws. And they enable tricks like automatically shifting the front chainring to march your choice in the rear cassette (don’t pair the small front chainring with a small rear speed!), automatically choosing preset combinations, and so on.

Re: Want to Win a Bike Race? Hack Your Rival's Wireless Shifters

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post #6
post #2

Opening paragraph is weird. Tacks on the road is not a dirty cheating trick but vandalism, potentially basque regional 'terrorism'. And motors has only been found use once (1) used by a junior rider, its a non-issue and everyone saying its not are spreading fud. If anything cycling is one of the sports with the least cheating. Even doping is minuscule now compared to most other sports. This is gear shifter hack also…

How do you know doping is rare?

Amazing statement given that cycling is responsible for one of the biggest doping scandals ever (the biggest in some sense), across all sports.

Re: Want to Win a Bike Race? Hack Your Rival's Wireless Shifters

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post #4

So how much is gained by wireless shifting?

Tiny aerodynamic gains from lack of cabling. But also allows more flexibility (sometimes literally, as anisotropic properties can be engineered into the layup) in the design of the composite material frames, as you don't need to worry about leaving room for smooth cable runs and the stress risers caused by holes/ports used to route them internally.
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