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'Smart' technology is out of control. We adore this dumb tech

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Re: 'Smart' technology is out of control. We adore this dumb tech

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Smart Technology is great when it is gets over the hump from being dumb, to overly complicated, to being smart and easy to use. I think of my smart lights as an example. They can be dumb (switch operated), they can be overly complex (remove phone, open app, find light, switch on), and they can be just smart (when I am in the room, turn on the lights, use time of day to decide light temperature and brightness).

Re: 'Smart' technology is out of control. We adore this dumb tech

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Smart Technology is great when it is gets over the hump from being dumb, to overly complicated, to being smart and easy to use. I think of my smart lights as an example. They can be dumb (switch operated), they can be overly complex (remove phone, open app, find light, switch on), and they can be just smart (when I am in the room, turn on the lights, use time of day to decide light temperature and brightness).

I never understood the need for smart lights for able-bodied people.

You just stand up for a moment and flick the switch, what benefit do smart lights or even a remote for lights provide? Even if you disregard all the issues these iot/smart devices have and assume they operate perfectly I really don’t see why we should expend any resources to make them.

Re: 'Smart' technology is out of control. We adore this dumb tech

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Smart Technology is great when it is gets over the hump from being dumb, to overly complicated, to being smart and easy to use. I think of my smart lights as an example. They can be dumb (switch operated), they can be overly complex (remove phone, open app, find light, switch on), and they can be just smart (when I am in the room, turn on the lights, use time of day to decide light temperature and brightness).

I never understood the need for smart lights for able-bodied people. You just stand up for a moment and flick the switch, what benefit do smart lights or even a remote for lights provide? Even if you disregard all the issues these iot/smart devices have and assume they operate perfectly I really don’t see why we should expend any resources to make them.

Peak laziness I guess. Probably appeals to the crowd spending hundreds of euros a month on uber eats then complain life is unaffordable.

Re: 'Smart' technology is out of control. We adore this dumb tech

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Smart Technology is great when it is gets over the hump from being dumb, to overly complicated, to being smart and easy to use. I think of my smart lights as an example. They can be dumb (switch operated), they can be overly complex (remove phone, open app, find light, switch on), and they can be just smart (when I am in the room, turn on the lights, use time of day to decide light temperature and brightness).

I never understood the need for smart lights for able-bodied people. You just stand up for a moment and flick the switch, what benefit do smart lights or even a remote for lights provide? Even if you disregard all the issues these iot/smart devices have and assume they operate perfectly I really don’t see why we should expend any resources to make them.

My hue lights are one of my favorite things. I never have to walk into a dark home, which is especially nice when switches aren't located near doors.

I also get a huge boost from tweaking the colors. It's very relaxing and dramatically improves the ambience.

If you can't see the appeal there, idk what to tell ya...

Using a phone to control them IS a drag, but there are remotes that can toggle through scenes etc. it's fantastic.

Why have any technology at all? Why goto the park and fly a kite when you can just pop a pill?

Re: 'Smart' technology is out of control. We adore this dumb tech

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never understood the need for smart lights for able-bodied people. You just stand up for a moment and flick the switch, what benefit do smart lights or even a remote for lights provide? Even if you disregard all the issues these iot/smart devices have and assume they operate perfectly I really don’t see why we should expend any resources to make them.

Peak laziness I guess. Probably appeals to the crowd spending hundreds of euros a month on uber eats then complain life is unaffordable.

Yeah how dare they not buy cars and gas and insurance! They'd save so much!...

I think this is weird rhetoric given the total ambiguity of who the target is. You can't just average comments on the internet and pretend they're all the same people.

Re: 'Smart' technology is out of control. We adore this dumb tech

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Smart Technology is great when it is gets over the hump from being dumb, to overly complicated, to being smart and easy to use. I think of my smart lights as an example. They can be dumb (switch operated), they can be overly complex (remove phone, open app, find light, switch on), and they can be just smart (when I am in the room, turn on the lights, use time of day to decide light temperature and brightness).

I never understood the need for smart lights for able-bodied people. You just stand up for a moment and flick the switch, what benefit do smart lights or even a remote for lights provide? Even if you disregard all the issues these iot/smart devices have and assume they operate perfectly I really don’t see why we should expend any resources to make them.

I personally liked the full RGB color change option, which I use to help with sleeping (e g. lower and more orange lights at night). Hue also lets me control six or eight lights at once, instead of doing a full circle of the room to flick switches.

Re: 'Smart' technology is out of control. We adore this dumb tech

#9
Two observations:

- Traditional mechanical switches, locks, etc have a lot of 9's of reliability.

- Any smart tech including in my house needs to decrease my cognitive load.

That means while it can have setup (even extensive!), after that it better be able to work with less thought, reliably, including when the internet is unavailable.

Which generally means simple smart devices with open interfaces.

What most smart manufacturers actually seem to want to sell: their proprietary platform, running shit firmware, requiring buggy outsourced apps, and an always-on data connection into my home, that despite that will never receive updates for known bugs. Fuck that tradeoff.

(And I get why. Profit margins suck in that space, and customers/builders are extremely price conscious)

Re: 'Smart' technology is out of control. We adore this dumb tech

#10
This really has nothing to do with "smartness" or even technology. It's the ancient conflict between the urban interdependent elites and the rural self sufficient people, it's just harder to see now that the internet makes the actual physical location less interesting.

This is why FOSS is so important and why I refuse to buy hardware without firmware that I can build myself.

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