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IRC Will Never Die (2021)

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Re: IRC Will Never Die (2021)

#2
Funny that they mention freenode because it did burn to the ground 2 years after this article.

However it was reborn as Libera which is once again doing great. If you don't know the story, Google it. I don't want to drag up the past, it's better forgotten.

I don't think IRC will really die, it will become a more fringey thing though. Probably more than it already is.

Re: IRC Will Never Die (2021)

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post #2

Funny that they mention freenode because it did burn to the ground 2 years after this article. However it was reborn as Libera which is once again doing great. If you don't know the story, Google it. I don't want to drag up the past, it's better forgotten. I don't think IRC will really die, it will become a more fringey thing though. Probably more than it already is.

Sadly the number of people on IRC took a huge hit the last few years especially channels previously on Freenode.

Re: IRC Will Never Die (2021)

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post #2

Funny that they mention freenode because it did burn to the ground 2 years after this article. However it was reborn as Libera which is once again doing great. If you don't know the story, Google it. I don't want to drag up the past, it's better forgotten. I don't think IRC will really die, it will become a more fringey thing though. Probably more than it already is.

Agreed, waves from DALnet!

Re: IRC Will Never Die (2021)

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Needs a 2021 in the title.

There seems a genuine loss of mojo amongst those purporting to support freedom of expression across the spectrum.

One does not wish to feel as though there were some "Dark Age" pending, but here we are.

Re: IRC Will Never Die (2021)

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post #2

Funny that they mention freenode because it did burn to the ground 2 years after this article. However it was reborn as Libera which is once again doing great. If you don't know the story, Google it. I don't want to drag up the past, it's better forgotten. I don't think IRC will really die, it will become a more fringey thing though. Probably more than it already is.

It's not so funny, because this article was written at the time freenode was burning to the ground, and the article suggests that it would be very easy for everyone to move to libera if it turned out to be the better option.

And that it worked so well is the point of the article!

IRC is highly resilient because it's simple to set up, the clients and servers are free software and can be endlessly and independently configured to talk to each other, and it's light on resources - both server, client, and bandwidth.

I'm on terrible, legacy satellite internet (ie, not starlink, with 700ms-1.2s round trip times), and IRC is the only chat system that works fine.

Re: IRC Will Never Die (2021)

#7
IRC is still my favorite chat system even if my close friends have moved on to fancier systems like discord and Zulip and slack.

If I could set technical direction in a company we’d use only IRC and email. Maybe mumble.

Re: IRC Will Never Die (2021)

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post #7

IRC is still my favorite chat system even if my close friends have moved on to fancier systems like discord and Zulip and slack. If I could set technical direction in a company we’d use only IRC and email. Maybe mumble.

IRC is terrible for work collaboration. I say this as a long time IRC user. Conversations are not searchable, and if you're offline you are unable to follow along with what's going on with your colleagues. To make it anywhere near usable, you need to run IRC bouncers, chat loggers, search indexers .. at that point, just use something made for collaboration.

Re: IRC Will Never Die (2021)

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post #7

IRC is still my favorite chat system even if my close friends have moved on to fancier systems like discord and Zulip and slack. If I could set technical direction in a company we’d use only IRC and email. Maybe mumble.

IRC is terrible for work collaboration. I say this as a long time IRC user. Conversations are not searchable, and if you're offline you are unable to follow along with what's going on with your colleagues. To make it anywhere near usable, you need to run IRC bouncers, chat loggers, search indexers .. at that point, just use something made for collaboration.

Hard agree. XMPP for sure.

Re: IRC Will Never Die (2021)

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IRC can absolutely die when the people running the networks and the servers stop doing so. A number of IRC networks have died over the years. IRC is just another service built, ran and operated by volunteers. If IRC was more popular, you'd hear about the same moderation concerns social networks are dealing with. I banned entire countries (hello, Malaysia!) in my time as network admin.
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