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The U.S. wanted to knock down Huawei. It's only getting stronger

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Re: The U.S. wanted to knock down Huawei. It's only getting stronger

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> “The U.S. government’s campaign against Huawei is inadvertently bolstering the company’s resilience, echoing the age-old adage that what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,”

Then in the _very next_ paragraphs:

> State money was critical. [...] billions of dollars flowed from the Chinese government to Huawei through preferential buying contracts and subsidies

So what does the "age old adage" have to do with anything? It doesn't matter what US policy is if China has decided to make you a defacto state run company.

This is a bizarre and meandering analysis that doesn't convey anything useful.

Re: The U.S. wanted to knock down Huawei. It's only getting stronger

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> “The U.S. government’s campaign against Huawei is inadvertently bolstering the company’s resilience, echoing the age-old adage that what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,” Then in the _very next_ paragraphs: > State money was critical. [...] billions of dollars flowed from the Chinese government to Huawei through preferential buying contracts and subsidies So what does the "age old adage" have to do with anythin…

It's state policy on both sides.

Cutting China and particularly Huawei off from access to our tech has forced them to develop capacity domestically, at a state and corporate level. Good for tech in an abstract space race kind of way, but pretty debatable as a geopolitical move.

Re: The U.S. wanted to knock down Huawei. It's only getting stronger

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> “The U.S. government’s campaign against Huawei is inadvertently bolstering the company’s resilience, echoing the age-old adage that what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,” Then in the _very next_ paragraphs: > State money was critical. [...] billions of dollars flowed from the Chinese government to Huawei through preferential buying contracts and subsidies So what does the "age old adage" have to do with anythin…

>So what does the "age old adage" have to do with anything?

China is succeeding at securing their industry and supply chains despite (or because of) our Cold War II efforts.

Meanwhile, if Intel is any indication we are consistently failing to secure our industry and supply chains and China hasn't even had to do anything besides just exist.

Re: The U.S. wanted to knock down Huawei. It's only getting stronger

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> “The U.S. government’s campaign against Huawei is inadvertently bolstering the company’s resilience, echoing the age-old adage that what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,” Then in the _very next_ paragraphs: > State money was critical. [...] billions of dollars flowed from the Chinese government to Huawei through preferential buying contracts and subsidies So what does the "age old adage" have to do with anythin…

Money can only get you so far; government money often even less. Yes of course, Huawei and the whole high tech IT hardware sector is strategic, and this is both why the US government tried to kneecap China and why the Chinese government intervened to save its companies. But money doesn't turn by itself in technological progress and most other countries wouldn't have managed, even with the same amount of money.

Re: The U.S. wanted to knock down Huawei. It's only getting stronger

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> “The U.S. government’s campaign against Huawei is inadvertently bolstering the company’s resilience, echoing the age-old adage that what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,” Then in the _very next_ paragraphs: > State money was critical. [...] billions of dollars flowed from the Chinese government to Huawei through preferential buying contracts and subsidies So what does the "age old adage" have to do with anythin…

There's so much poor analysis on the subject which pretends that Beijing hasn't been dumping orders of magnitude more subsidies into Chip companies. Yes Huawei is still around, China wasn't going to let it fail no matter what. It was worth doing because without US withholding western technology the plan was to gradually replace piece by piece of the supply chain with domestic ones. Instead Chinese companies must do a lot more at once which comes at a greater costs.

Re: The U.S. wanted to knock down Huawei. It's only getting stronger

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> “The U.S. government’s campaign against Huawei is inadvertently bolstering the company’s resilience, echoing the age-old adage that what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,” Then in the _very next_ paragraphs: > State money was critical. [...] billions of dollars flowed from the Chinese government to Huawei through preferential buying contracts and subsidies So what does the "age old adage" have to do with anythin…

the classic kelly clarkson single about using industrial policy to stay afloat when a revenue source goes away
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