Schengen ain't what it used to be
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Schengen ain't what it used to be
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#2Passengers going through without document checks is a minor element of Schengen. The heavy hitter are the trucks passing borders much faster and with no admin expenses - saves EU countries many billions of EUR annually.
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#3Well yes internal borders work fine when external borders are taken seriously, not when countries are pretty much forced to accept anyone thanks to human trafficking orgs and lax regulation imagined for war times not for "my country sucks" type of problem.
> And yet: countries like Denmark are safer and more prosperous than ever before.
Maybe ask the Swedes about how things are going there (apart from internet hyperboles, which tend to exaggerate things)
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#4As a Dane living in Denmark, I don’t think it’s a big problem. We don’t show passports when entering Germany, only when returning to Denmark. And several times, if I forgot my passport, a driver’s license has been sufficient. Passport control is not really, if I have to be direct, aimed at the locals.
Unfortunately, Schengen has made it easy for organized crime. On the simpler end, for example, bicycle theft, cargo bike theft, and electric bike battery theft have exploded, and the police do not have the resources to solve it. When they occasionally caught the perpetrators and deported them, a couple of months could pass before they encountered the same people again. There is a lot of that kind of thing in Denmark, and unfortunately, it is often people from Eastern European countries who are behind it. I am not far-right, but it is a fact. The ironic thing is that border control doesn’t really solve anything. There is no control when you drive out of the country (possibly with stolen goods), and there is no round-the-clock passport control at all border crossings.
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#5Anecdotal, but: this is probably more of a Denmark thing and not a Schengen thing. I recently crossed French, Dutch, German, and Polish borders on 4 separate trips and had no checks.
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#7I always find it ironic how Denmark is proud of Vikings and protects borders at the same time. There’re axes on border guards’ uniforms. Also, the traffic lights have a viking with an axe instead of a regular figure. Yet Vikings were universally hated back in the day for not respecting borders.
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#8As an Austrian I'm very disappointed by this overall development. I grew up in a much more unified European Union and the degradation of Schengen is a very visible sign that something is happening to the union and what's happening is bad news. We have been a leading actor in the destruction of Schengen sadly for internal stupid political reasons.
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#9Well yes internal borders work fine when external borders are taken seriously, not when countries are pretty much forced to accept anyone thanks to human trafficking orgs and lax regulation imagined for war times not for "my country sucks" type of problem. > And yet: countries like Denmark are safer and more prosperous than ever before. Maybe ask the Swedes about how things are going there (apart from internet hyperb…
>not with the farce that exists today where "asylum" is used is a get-out-of-jail free card
The problem with the current asylum system is basically anyone can come in and say: "look, Russia, US, UK, France and coalition blew up my middle eastern country, so now countries like Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Austria who had nothing to do with it, need to give me asylum to me and my whole family, simple" which makes the system very easy to be gamed as the ECHR forces you to accept anyone who crosses your border and claims asylum with a well rehearsed sob story.
So, is there any surprise of the growth of right wind in Europe? The bigger issue is that voting right wing won't solve this since they legally can't, it's not under their control but the ECHR, so we just keep moving right while suffering the same immigration issues making it a double whammy.
The solution is to reform the ECHR membership and give sovereignty over asylum policies to the member country instead of an foreign org people can't vote for.
Especially now, when Russia and Belarus are weaponizing illegal migration by giving them visa free travel for money to Russia and Belarus so they can then storm the borders with Finland, Norway and Poland. Recently a Polish soldier working the border with Belarus got stabbed on duty by a migrant trying to force the border[1]. This is obviously unacceptable and should mean proper military response against illegal border crossings.
[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-soldier-dies-aft...
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#10I always find it ironic how Denmark is proud of Vikings and protects borders at the same time. There’re axes on border guards’ uniforms. Also, the traffic lights have a viking with an axe instead of a regular figure. Yet Vikings were universally hated back in the day for not respecting borders.
"Not respecting borders" is an odd way to summarize indiscriminate killing of unarmed people, burning houses and crops, robbery, raping and forcing people into slavery including sex slavery.