No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
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No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
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Re: No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
#2Google is pushing location data to devices and purging it on servers. From a citation within my comment I’ve cited below:
> This change means that Google will no longer respond to geofence warrants from law enforcement that request information on all devices near a particular incident.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40869536
(edit to fix my mistake, thank you Centigonal!)
Re: No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
#3How is turning on a feature the same thing as handing data it collects to Google etc? I turned on computer backups, does that mean the feds can read all of that?
Re: No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
#4Google is pushing location data to devices and purging it on servers. From a citation within my comment I’ve cited below: > This change means that Google will no longer respond to geofence warrants from law enforcement that request information on all devices near a particular incident. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40869536 (edit to fix my mistake, thank you Centigonal!)
purging it from their servers*
Re: No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
#5How is turning on a feature the same thing as handing data it collects to Google etc? I turned on computer backups, does that mean the feds can read all of that?
Sharing your personal information with a 3rd party reduces your claim to privacy and 4th amendment rights.
Re: No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
#6> Location History is turned off by default, so a user must take several affirmative steps before Google begins tracking and storing his Location History data.
Do people really think Google isn't tracking location data without this setting enabled? How would anyone (save for a whistleblower) know? Location history seems like the data Google lets you collect/see for yourself, and not the totality of location data (which includes data collected from nearby wifi networks, nearby cellphones, and other bluetooth devices) that google collects.
> Even after a user opts in, he maintains some control over his location data. He can review, edit, or delete any information that Google has already obtained.
This is pretty misleading. You can see the location information your device sent to google, but you can't see or delete the assumptions that google has made about you based on that data. A list of GPS coordinates showing where you frequently go on Saturday nights isn't what people are concerned about Google having. The fact that those GPS coordinates show that you spend hours at, for example, a gay bar is more of an issue. It doesn't matter if you delete the list of GPS coordinates from your google account because what you can't delete is the "This user is gay and often goes to gay bars on Saturdays" flag that google put there the instant they got that data. No matter what you delete that data stays with Google along with the "here's how long this user stays at the gay bar, when they usually leave, where they go afterwards, and who they are with when they do" flags.
I think what happened to this guy (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/google-tracked-his-bike...) is a good indication that the entire system and the way it's being used by police is flawed and dangerous.
Even worse, the situation with google is just the tip of the iceberg because it's not just our phones that are tracking us. It's also our cell phone companies, the random cameras and license plate/toll transponder readers we pass by, our "smart" cars, etc. There's so much tracking going on that the typically American has zero control over at all, but which police (and others) could tap into. We really need more protections against this.
Re: No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
#7> Location History is turned off by default, so a user must take several affirmative steps before Google begins tracking and storing his Location History data. Do people really think Google isn't tracking location data without this setting enabled? How would anyone (save for a whistleblower) know? Location history seems like the data Google lets you collect/see for yourself, and not the totality of location data (whi…
My mother was told that she spent over 200 hours shopping last month. When she looked into it, Google had tracked all the time spent at the retail store she operates. It was amusing and annoying at the same time. She never asked Google to track her location.
Re: No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
#8How is turning on a feature the same thing as handing data it collects to Google etc? I turned on computer backups, does that mean the feds can read all of that?
Sharing your personal information with a 3rd party reduces your claim to privacy and 4th amendment rights.
pretty sure one of the 47 agree buttons people blindly click on while using their phone has given them the permission already
Re: No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
#9Missing from this is the reality that the modern world increasingly requires using these applications. It is meaningless to present an option you are forced to agree to. Additionally there is, to me, a big difference between me enabling an app to use my data for the service I believe it provides and them using it for everything else.
Re: No reasonable expectation of privacy in one's Google location data
#10> Location History is turned off by default, so a user must take several affirmative steps before Google begins tracking and storing his Location History data. Do people really think Google isn't tracking location data without this setting enabled? How would anyone (save for a whistleblower) know? Location history seems like the data Google lets you collect/see for yourself, and not the totality of location data (whi…
My mother was told that she spent over 200 hours shopping last month. When she looked into it, Google had tracked all the time spent at the retail store she operates. It was amusing and annoying at the same time. She never asked Google to track her location.
Told by Google? Are they giving people stats like that? How did she get the message?