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Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Sleeping Outdoors in Homelessness Case

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Sleeping Outdoors in Homelessness Case

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The court's previous ruling on this was that you couldn't make "being homeless" illegal, and so laws against things like sleeping in the park were only valid if there was a reasonable alternative available. Generally this meant that the municipality needed to provide homeless shelters.

I can't say that I like this outcome, since now cities are motivated to just run the homeless out of town rather than helping them in any way.

Re: Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Sleeping Outdoors in Homelessness Case

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The court's previous ruling on this was that you couldn't make "being homeless" illegal, and so laws against things like sleeping in the park were only valid if there was a reasonable alternative available. Generally this meant that the municipality needed to provide homeless shelters. I can't say that I like this outcome, since now cities are motivated to just run the homeless out of town rather than helping them in…

Yeah. Reading the opinion, the logical argument of criminalizing a status (homeless) versus an action (camping in public) makes sense. The action applies to everyone.

We as a society need to continue trying to solve the problem of homelessness. However, leveraging the 8th Amendment, in part, to do it doesn’t make sense.

Re: Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Sleeping Outdoors in Homelessness Case

#9

This is… surprising. Evidently you are ok if you are awake, but as soon as you fall asleep you can be arrested? You can only stay awake so long. This seems against human nature. Better not take a nap after your summer picnic!

Obviously it won’t be enforced against people who look like they could sleep anywhere else.

Re: Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Sleeping Outdoors in Homelessness Case

#10
I really don't like this ruling. My reasoning is that a public park, for instance, is public property available for use to everyone. Anywhere you go will either be private, or public property. The homeless cannot sleep on private land, fine, but it's coldly unreasonable to say they cannot sleep in the park at night. During the day, ok, move along, I can accept that but.. The homeless are humans and we should stop treating them as a general nuisance. Any one of us could just as easily find ourselves homeless, falling from great success.

https://priceonomics.com/what-its-like-to-fail/

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