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Entrust Certificate Distrust

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Re: Entrust Certificate Distrust

#3
The issues identified really show a dumpster fire: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o2=greaterthaneq&sh...

Directly from Entrust: "Yes, there has been ongoing internal discussion and reflection on the issues found in this and other incidents, which has led to the action items described previously and ongoing changes, including the decision to revoke the certificates affected by this bug. Exceptional circumstances would need to be provided and justified by the Subscribers. Given the nature of the feedback we have received to date, we doubt that the community has any real interest in anything that Entrust could suggest, except to use against Entrust in a destructive, not constructive, way. We therefore would like more explicit and clear guidelines or a definition of “exceptional circumstances” to be adopted and applied equally to all CAs, perhaps through updates in the CA/B Forum requirements."

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1888714

Re: Entrust Certificate Distrust

#5
I wonder if Entrust can survive this. Even if Web-PKI doesn't account for the majority of their income (which it might, I genuinely don't know) this is a huge blow to their credibility.

And for a CA, credibility is everything

Re: Entrust Certificate Distrust

#6
post #5

I wonder if Entrust can survive this. Even if Web-PKI doesn't account for the majority of their income (which it might, I genuinely don't know) this is a huge blow to their credibility. And for a CA, credibility is everything

Entrust has BIMI certs which use a different root (CN = Entrust Verified Mark Root Certification Authority - VMCR1) and for which your choices of a BIMI certificate are: Entrust or Digicert. I doubt it makes as much money as their web certs (BIMI certs are not super common, and they are expensive to issue since there's an actual validation process that typically involves a public notary validating the ID of a corporate officer).

If you believe https://bimiradar.com/glob

it looks like Entrust is selling on the order of a few dozen certs a week to maybe upwards of 100-200.

EDIT: I've asked Google if Gmail will be discontinuing support for Entrusts VMC certificate (and thus BIMI logos), I would guess not since BIMI has some actual requirements, but assumptions are not the best way to make decisions about risk (like our BIMI logo not working later this fall).

Re: Entrust Certificate Distrust

#10
It always fascinates me when this happens. Don't the CAs understand that the browser vendors can and will kill their business if they don't comply with the rules? It's not like a fine that can be ignored.

How dysfunctional does a company have to be to let this happen?

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