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Took part in Apache ceremonies. schools expelled them for satanic activities

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Re: Took part in Apache ceremonies. schools expelled them for satanic activities

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We're going backwards.

Who's "we"? This was about a private Lutheran school. It's ridiculous of course, but if you sign up for a private school, you have to put up with whatever ridiculous BS they want to push on you, no matter how medieval. My question is: why are these people sending their kids to this shitty school? This is the whole reason public education exists.

Re: Took part in Apache ceremonies. schools expelled them for satanic activities

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How stupid, ignorant, and bigoted. Still, I mostly fault the parents for not paying closer attention before deciding to send their kids to these private schools. It's fairly vile that anyone would build an ostensibly educational organization on reservation land with a belief that tribal religion is "satanic" in nature, but the parents chose to send them to this school - There's a large dose of "Caveat Emptor" and a smaller dose of "Sue them for fraud" depending on how much they were paying attention before sending their kids there.

Re: Took part in Apache ceremonies. schools expelled them for satanic activities

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post #3

We're going backwards.

Who's "we"? This was about a private Lutheran school. It's ridiculous of course, but if you sign up for a private school, you have to put up with whatever ridiculous BS they want to push on you, no matter how medieval. My question is: why are these people sending their kids to this shitty school? This is the whole reason public education exists.

I'm not sure what your point is. "We" are collective humanity. These things seem to be happening more and more. Stories that sound like they're from 100 years ago occur today with growing frequency. It appears "we" are going backwards.

Re: Took part in Apache ceremonies. schools expelled them for satanic activities

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> The morning of Good Friday, Father John Cormack, presiding priest of St Francis of Assisi Catholic church in Fort Apache, agreed to an interview in his office. His ministry – a rarity on the reservation – is an example of the weaving of Apache tradition into Christianity. The chapel is decorated in Apache symbols and sacred tools. When he collects written prayers, Father John uses Apache traditional burden baskets, canes and other ceremonial objects. Above the door are Eagle feathers, a sacred symbol of strength.

What a cool guy.

Historically the Catholic Church has gotten up to all sorts of nonsense, but they seem to be doing a good job of keeping up with the times, to the extent that a church can be expected to.

The East Fork Lutheran school, on the other hand, isn’t looking so good.

Re: Took part in Apache ceremonies. schools expelled them for satanic activities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's "we"? This was about a private Lutheran school. It's ridiculous of course, but if you sign up for a private school, you have to put up with whatever ridiculous BS they want to push on you, no matter how medieval. My question is: why are these people sending their kids to this shitty school? This is the whole reason public education exists.

I'm not sure what your point is. "We" are collective humanity. These things seem to be happening more and more. Stories that sound like they're from 100 years ago occur today with growing frequency. It appears "we" are going backwards.

>"We" are collective humanity.

No, "we" are not. This kind of silliness doesn't happen in most civilized places. Even in the US. This incident is an outlier.

>These things seem to be happening more and more.

Go back 100 years and you'll see it was much worse. Sure, parts of the US seem to be backsliding a bit, but that doesn't mean every place is. 95% of the world's population lives outside the US, remember.

>Stories that sound like they're from 100 years ago occur today with growing frequency. It appears "we" are going backwards.

Maybe in some particularly backwards parts of the US. That doesn't generalize to everywhere.

>I'm not sure what your point is.

My point is that if you put your kid in a private, religious school run by a bunch of backwards religious nutcases, you shouldn't be surprised when they tell you insane, ridiculous stuff such as traditional Native American ceremonies being "devil worship". I'm sure there's other crazy religious schools in the US much like this, but we don't normally hear about it because the parents actually subscribe fully to the religious ideology, and because they're a small part of the population anyway: most people just send their kids to (secular) public schools.

Re: Took part in Apache ceremonies. schools expelled them for satanic activities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what your point is. "We" are collective humanity. These things seem to be happening more and more. Stories that sound like they're from 100 years ago occur today with growing frequency. It appears "we" are going backwards.

>"We" are collective humanity. No, "we" are not. This kind of silliness doesn't happen in most civilized places. Even in the US. This incident is an outlier. >These things seem to be happening more and more. Go back 100 years and you'll see it was much worse. Sure, parts of the US seem to be backsliding a bit, but that doesn't mean every place is. 95% of the world's population lives outside the US, remember. >Stories…

The bigger problem, at least in my opinion, is that these outliers are more emboldened with their opinions in recent years.
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