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FAA investigating how counterfeit titanium got into Boeing and Airbus jets

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Re: FAA investigating how counterfeit titanium got into Boeing and Airbus jets

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How the fuck do you counterfeit titanium it’s one of those things that is either or it’s not.

The article says it needs to be treated to be aviation-grade, in some Boeing-approved process.

Depending on the alloy, they solution treat it and heat treat it.

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How the fuck do you counterfeit titanium it’s one of those things that is either or it’s not.

If I show you a lump of metal and I tell you it is titanium how do you know I am not lying?

1. It will be non-magnetic

2. Easiest, most accessible testing method is scratching it on tile or glass. When scratched against glass (or ceramic tile), steel will probably leave a real scratch, aluminum will do nothing, titanium will leave a pencil-like line.

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How the fuck do you counterfeit titanium it’s one of those things that is either or it’s not.

Improper alloying, improper heat treating, improper rolling/forming.

Trying to back out what you actually have (if you don't trust the supply chain) can be expensive metallurgical analysis involving destructive testing, spectrometers, and electron microscopes.

The real way industry solves this problem is mill test reports produced by the suppliers and careful documentation of chain-of-custody.

Unless you don't care, then you just buy whatever from China and pretend you trust the counterfeit documentation that comes with it.

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