The "uncanny" is the experience of a loss of control
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The "uncanny" is the experience of a loss of control
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#2I think it really has to do with a having a noticeable line between an articulated face and simpler body for human like characters.
Thanos's face was really well animated. Even though it was mocap, he face felt like it was part of a living thing. When he talked, the rest of his body moved with it. I think the oversized head help give more room to transition. Contrast that to the faces from Cats. There is a clear delineation between the human face pasted onto the CGI cat body.
Clu's face also looks pasted on to a body. All the de-aging tech suffers from this because they are usually pasting a CGI face over a real body, and the micromovements don't match. Whatever tech smooths out wrinkles also seems to reduce fidelity.
Animatronics suffer from the same issue. Often the faces are highly articulated, but the rest of the body is just a frame covered in plastic.
Worf and Gamora were both real actors in makeup, so they still had all the human micromovements. And anything that is fully animated doesn't have the same delineation.
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#3The AI image part would have been better if they showed an AI generated photorealistic scene compared to the AI generated cartoon scene
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#4The term i like to use lately is: faf - Fake As F*ck.
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#5I highly reccomend The Weird and the Eerie by Mark Fisher.
He's talking most about horror and strangeness in kterature and film, but I think it still applies to this.
One is a presence of something that should not be there and the other is an absence of something that should.
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#6I think it really has to do with a having a noticeable line between an articulated face and simpler body for human like characters. Thanos's face was really well animated. Even though it was mocap, he face felt like it was part of a living thing. When he talked, the rest of his body moved with it. I think the oversized head help give more room to transition. Contrast that to the faces from Cats. There is a clear deli…
Thanos's face is what I felt really uncanny and made the movie difficult to watch for me.
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#7I wonder if this is why people are uncomfortable with autistic people. Some subtle details of behavior are missing and they can't identify what because all the superficial features may be present. They'll tolerate it for a little while but eventually get sick of not being able to relax and accept the person as fitting into any desirable or known type of personality.
Perhaps moving to a foreign country makes it easier because you're obviously different - like a cartoon character or upside-down Thatcher.
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#8The example of "Clu" in TRON: Legacy is a bad example. In the movie they are inside a simulation and everybody besides the real humans do look a bit off, on purpose. So 3D generated young Jeff Bridges fits perfectly. It does add to the movie that they look "not completely real".
Great soundtrack by Daft Punk by the way. The story is linear but it's still an impressive movie.
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#9The author had it right up until they tried to generalize "uncanny" to equate to "loss of control". It's not the same thing. "uncanny" happens as a result of your brain not being able to dismiss a potential threat (and thus you remain on alert and can't relax fully). That's not the same thing as a loss of control.
The author also fails to go into our evolved genetic psychological makeup (which varies according to what "stock" you hail from): Certain kinds of differences are more threatening than others because survivors over time have tended to naturally find them more threatening - you see this often with the insectoid-looking holes in sliced lotus root for example.
Re: The "uncanny" is the experience of a loss of control
#10The author had it right up until they tried to generalize "uncanny" to equate to "loss of control". It's not the same thing. "uncanny" happens as a result of your brain not being able to dismiss a potential threat (and thus you remain on alert and can't relax fully). That's not the same thing as a loss of control. The author also fails to go into our evolved genetic psychological makeup (which varies according to wha…
Threat. I find artificial voices I engage with over the phone at work flip my threat response, because the emotional affectation is patently false. I feel the same way about certain humans who follow a strict script sprinkled with false concern for my feelings. It’s like junk food. You can’t get anything from the interaction that helps you to communicate.