shpool is a terminal session persistence tool developed internally at google to support remote workflows, which we have open sourced.
Show HN: Shpool, a Lightweight Tmux Alternative
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#2There's also the longstanding option dtach, which similarly seems to be a lightweight re-attachable way to run a program. https://github.com/crigler/dtach
For a while I was running neovim on dtach, which let me host all the terminals I might want. It has long felt weird that we have so recursively many layers of management and navigation: the OS juggling multiple terminals, tmux juggling multiple shells, and neovim juggling multiple windows. I was doing pretty good in full screen neovim for a while, but have backed down a bit, still find tmux navigation a bit faster.
Re: Show HN: Shpool, a Lightweight Tmux Alternative
#3Unbundling tmux is a great concept!
Other tools that can overlap in use case are EternalTerminal and mosh which provide sessions that survive disconnects.
Re: Show HN: Shpool, a Lightweight Tmux Alternative
#4There's also the longstanding option dtach, which similarly seems to be a lightweight re-attachable way to run a program. https://github.com/crigler/dtach For a while I was running neovim on dtach, which let me host all the terminals I might want. It has long felt weird that we have so recursively many layers of management and navigation: the OS juggling multiple terminals, tmux juggling multiple shells, and neovim j…
dtach, abduco, and diss are all mentioned in comparison at the bottom of the page. I've never used diss before, but the other two are good products, but for some reason the ergonomics never quite seem to work out for me and I revert back to tmux.
Similarly dvtm, which is a minimalist version of the window management aspects of tmux but omits the session management, also never quite seems to click for me.
Re: Show HN: Shpool, a Lightweight Tmux Alternative
#5There's also the longstanding option dtach, which similarly seems to be a lightweight re-attachable way to run a program. https://github.com/crigler/dtach For a while I was running neovim on dtach, which let me host all the terminals I might want. It has long felt weird that we have so recursively many layers of management and navigation: the OS juggling multiple terminals, tmux juggling multiple shells, and neovim j…
The readme contains a brief comparison to dtach: https://github.com/shell-pool/shpool?tab=readme-ov-file#dtac...
IIUC, the main difference is that shpool maintains an in-memory copy of terminal state that it can use to re-draw after a reconnect, so you don't lose all your scrollback.
Re: Show HN: Shpool, a Lightweight Tmux Alternative
#6A lightweight tmux alternative? Tmux is already an incredibly lightweight C program in terms of binary size and resource usage.
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#7No mention of screen?
I'm too old.
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#8Recently learned about Zellij and it replaced my tmux usage.
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#9Recently learned about Zellij and it replaced my tmux usage.
If you don’t mind explaining, what are the advantages you get over tmux?
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#10No mention of screen? I'm too old.
Screen is discussed along with tmux in the [comparison section](https://github.com/shell-pool/shpool#tmux-and-gnu-screen) of the README. For most of the section I just say `tmux` because saying `tmux` or `screen` can get annoying and they have a very similar set of features.