Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
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Re: Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
#2I'm fascinated about starliner strictly from a project management perspective. This is such a comprehensive failure from top to bottom between the delays, test failures, and hand waved requirements yet there still seems to be a contingent of boosters from both leadership and the customer. Usually I'm the guy who gets called in to rescue a spiraling project and if I was in aerospace, I dont even know where I would begin here....
Re: Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
#3Agile development at its finest. Boeing can prioritize in next spring and ship a “day 1” patch that is 100+ GB to fix the issues.
Re: Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
#4What's the strategy for getting the astronauts back? Do they jettison the Starliner and dock a different recovery vehicle? Are those on stand-by ready to go?
Re: Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
#5Agile development at its finest. Boeing can prioritize in next spring and ship a “day 1” patch that is 100+ GB to fix the issues.
Literally shipping a patch by rocket to the international space station.
Re: Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
#6At what point do we just completely lose faith in a company? First they screwed over the public and now our astronauts.
Re: Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
#7As much as I think Boeing screwed up, the title is a clickbait:
> NASA is giving Boeing another four days, extending Wilmore and Williams' mission onboard the ISS from June 14 to no earlier than June 18, though it's unclear whether the leaks are to blame for the delay.
No, no one have conclusively say that Starliner is stuck on ISS because of helium leak
Re: Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
#8I'm fascinated about starliner strictly from a project management perspective. This is such a comprehensive failure from top to bottom between the delays, test failures, and hand waved requirements yet there still seems to be a contingent of boosters from both leadership and the customer. Usually I'm the guy who gets called in to rescue a spiraling project and if I was in aerospace, I dont even know where I would beg…
You see, there is this barrel, and it is full of pork. You work for a guy who wants that pork. He says: Go pick up some of the pork, cut a chunk off for yourself, and bring the rest to me. You do that every day. You both have a nice steady supply of pork.
Some other person, who isn't you, and isn't your boss, or your boss's boss would like it if the barrel got into space. It doesn't, but that's okay because they have no power over you or your boss. Not to mention that both you and your boss both have some pork, so you're both happy whether or not the barrel goes into space.
There is no problem here to solve.
That's why you can't solve the problem. There isn't one. Everyone directly involved is very happy. You can't "fix" happy people.
Re: Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
#9I'm fascinated about starliner strictly from a project management perspective. This is such a comprehensive failure from top to bottom between the delays, test failures, and hand waved requirements yet there still seems to be a contingent of boosters from both leadership and the customer. Usually I'm the guy who gets called in to rescue a spiraling project and if I was in aerospace, I dont even know where I would beg…
You see, there is this barrel, and it is full of pork. You work for a guy who wants that pork. He says: Go pick up some of the pork, cut a chunk off for yourself, and bring the rest to me. You do that every day. You both have a nice steady supply of pork. Some other person, who isn't you, and isn't your boss, or your boss's boss would like it if the barrel got into space. It doesn't, but that's okay because they have…
Except that this was a fixed price contract. If they don't get it right the pork train does come to an end.
Re: Boeing Starliner Stuck on Space Station as More Leaks Discovered
#10At what point do we just completely lose faith in a company? First they screwed over the public and now our astronauts.
You should never have faith in a company. You should have faith in the regulatory process that constrains that company.
If you see a spoiled child being a brat, do you blame the child?