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The elephant in the room is that many students are using ChatGPT to write their papers. Since they will use similar tools at work to create presentations, I'm wonder how much colleges should try to police use of ChatGPT by students.

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The elephant in the room is that many students are using ChatGPT to write their papers. Since they will use similar tools at work to create presentations, I'm wonder how much colleges should try to police use of ChatGPT by students.

Wouldn't surprise me if schools go the route of forcing a cloud toolset (e.g Office 365 or Google Workspace) and measuring proof of work - in a very literal sense, not a cryptographic sense.

Ripe for being gamed but is probably the only way to do PoW without becoming wildly intrusive with personal devices.

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IMO, if universities want to use "AI", they should use their resources to implement their own, open language models rather then implementing a commercial one.

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The elephant in the room is that many students are using ChatGPT to write their papers. Since they will use similar tools at work to create presentations, I'm wonder how much colleges should try to police use of ChatGPT by students.

In a class of any substantial size, it's very obvious who is using ChatGPT and who is thinking for themselves.

A large fraction (often 70%) of responses will be identical in structure and content, if not verbatim copies of each other. These are the people who have used ChatGPT. These are the people who tend to do very poorly on closed-laptop examinations.

Students have a choice of how much of their critical thinking they choose to offload to the computer, and how much they develop their own critical thinking skills.

Robust assessments in classes still paint an accurate picture of students' capabilities. Designing those assessments requires work for instructors. Pour one out for the lazy.

I suspect that in the coming years, industries will reward those who are capable of adding value beyond naïve parroting of LLM output. Pour one out for the lazy.

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post #3

The elephant in the room is that many students are using ChatGPT to write their papers. Since they will use similar tools at work to create presentations, I'm wonder how much colleges should try to police use of ChatGPT by students.

Wouldn't surprise me if schools go the route of forcing a cloud toolset (e.g Office 365 or Google Workspace) and measuring proof of work - in a very literal sense, not a cryptographic sense. Ripe for being gamed but is probably the only way to do PoW without becoming wildly intrusive with personal devices.

Or you could switch to proof of knowledge and use that old boring tech of a conversation. Also harder to game at such a low latency.

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I remember the fascination of reading through physical encyclopedias when I was a kid.

Having the collective knowledge of the world in my pocket and a personal tutor for any topic still sounds surreal.

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post #3

The elephant in the room is that many students are using ChatGPT to write their papers. Since they will use similar tools at work to create presentations, I'm wonder how much colleges should try to police use of ChatGPT by students.

Wouldn't surprise me if schools go the route of forcing a cloud toolset (e.g Office 365 or Google Workspace) and measuring proof of work - in a very literal sense, not a cryptographic sense. Ripe for being gamed but is probably the only way to do PoW without becoming wildly intrusive with personal devices.

  measuring proof of work
This is one of the ideas Sal Khan mentions in his recent book: interaction history with Khanmigo.

But there's nothing to stop you from using another AI system to interact with Khanmigo.

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The elephant in the room is that many students are using ChatGPT to write their papers. Since they will use similar tools at work to create presentations, I'm wonder how much colleges should try to police use of ChatGPT by students.

In a class of any substantial size, it's very obvious who is using ChatGPT and who is thinking for themselves. A large fraction (often 70%) of responses will be identical in structure and content, if not verbatim copies of each other. These are the people who have used ChatGPT. These are the people who tend to do very poorly on closed-laptop examinations. Students have a choice of how much of their critical thinking…

At the same time using chatgpt or any LLM productively, and getting the most out of it to help you think and reason better is a skill on its own that requires development.
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