US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
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US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
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Re: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
#2Anonymous scooped everyone last year: http://crowdleaks.org/hbgary-wanted-to-suppress-stuxnet-rese...
Re: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
#3Anonymous scooped everyone last year: http://crowdleaks.org/hbgary-wanted-to-suppress-stuxnet-rese...
You should actually read that link; the emails indicated HBGary were interested in using Stuxnet (probably the framework or exploits it used), but not that they had any idea who actually made Stuxnet.
So no, Anonymous didn't "scoop" anything.
Re: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
#4This feels similar to the Megaupload case; America desperately throwing its weight around outside it's borders, with a total disregard for the law. And, just like the Megaupload case, they have fucked up big time.
Why does the American govt. feel it has the right to choose who can become a nuclear power or not anyway?
Re: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
#5arstechnica is taking the NY Times article and extrapolating too much. Confirmed? No it's not. It was suspected before, and it still is.
And lost control would imply they could not control what it did to the target, which is incorrect. It did escape to the wild, but that's not really loosing control when it was designed to do nothing harmful on non target machines.
Better to read the original, and the discussion on it: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4052330
Re: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
#6This feels similar to the Megaupload case; America desperately throwing its weight around outside it's borders, with a total disregard for the law. And, just like the Megaupload case, they have fucked up big time. Why does the American govt. feel it has the right to choose who can become a nuclear power or not anyway?
The original nytimes article implies that the U.S. started this program as a way to prevent Israel from responding in a military way to Iran's nuclear program.
But yes, it certainly does seem that nary a geopolitical snafu goes by without the U.S. being involved.
Re: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
#7This feels similar to the Megaupload case; America desperately throwing its weight around outside it's borders, with a total disregard for the law. And, just like the Megaupload case, they have fucked up big time. Why does the American govt. feel it has the right to choose who can become a nuclear power or not anyway?
Some things are a question of right, some things are a question of need or interest. The US has enemies and it doesn't want them to have nuclear weapons.
Re: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
#8This feels similar to the Megaupload case; America desperately throwing its weight around outside it's borders, with a total disregard for the law. And, just like the Megaupload case, they have fucked up big time. Why does the American govt. feel it has the right to choose who can become a nuclear power or not anyway?
No nation should become a nuclear power. It’s really simple.
Re: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
#9Anonymous scooped everyone last year: http://crowdleaks.org/hbgary-wanted-to-suppress-stuxnet-rese...
You should actually read that link; the emails indicated HBGary were interested in using Stuxnet (probably the framework or exploits it used), but not that they had any idea who actually made Stuxnet. So no, Anonymous didn't "scoop" anything.
Aaron Barr talks to Defence Intelligence Agency and DoD about
StuxNet in 2010, they had a copy given to them in 2009 that they claim was a US produced binary. Keep in mind stuxnet was 'discovered' in 2010.
First reference to Stuxnet being U.S. government produced? You decide.
Re: US and Israel created Stuxnet, lost control of it
#10If Israel had physically bombed the Iranian plant would that not started another major war in the Middle East? I am not saying this is an elegant solution to cross border conflict but war was avoided.
Everyone in the hacker community knows this was coming. This is going to get much worst before it gets better. Power outages in Brazil, China/Google event last year, and stuxnet.
As the article says: "Stuxnet is old news by now. Even the newly discovered "Flame" malware was developed some time ago. While details about these two targeted attack packages are finally emerging, the next generation of attack tools has no doubt been developed and likely deployed."