The push to ban ransom payments is gaining momentum
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#2Once companies are held accountable for the weapons and whatever else the money they paid in ransom gets spent on, things will finally change. Until then, we use the word "victim" with too much lenience. The secondary victims, the ones getting bombed, or the ones that will be targeted and threatened with the nukes that just got paid for with the ransom money, shouldn't be left out of the equation as they have been thus far.
I'm sure some people don't like that way of thinking, but where else do you think one spends $22mil per "victim"? $30 billion a year buys a lot more than fancy clothes and yachts.
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#3Does banning ransom payments really work? It just seems to create a service industry to pay on ransomed’s behalf.
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#5I thought ransomware was a crime already? What would banning a crime do?
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#6Once companies are held accountable for the weapons and whatever else the money they paid in ransom gets spent on, things will finally change. Until then, we use the word "victim" with too much lenience. The secondary victims, the ones getting bombed, or the ones that will be targeted and threatened with the nukes that just got paid for with the ransom money, shouldn't be left out of the equation as they have been th…
How would holding companies accountable look? If you pay x amount as ransom, you must also pay x * some_multiplier as a fine, something like that?
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#7Once companies are held accountable for the weapons and whatever else the money they paid in ransom gets spent on, things will finally change. Until then, we use the word "victim" with too much lenience. The secondary victims, the ones getting bombed, or the ones that will be targeted and threatened with the nukes that just got paid for with the ransom money, shouldn't be left out of the equation as they have been th…
Nukes? Not to hyperfixate lol i get your point but whyd you throw that in there?
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#8Once companies are held accountable for the weapons and whatever else the money they paid in ransom gets spent on, things will finally change. Until then, we use the word "victim" with too much lenience. The secondary victims, the ones getting bombed, or the ones that will be targeted and threatened with the nukes that just got paid for with the ransom money, shouldn't be left out of the equation as they have been th…
How would holding companies accountable look? If you pay x amount as ransom, you must also pay x * some_multiplier as a fine, something like that?
50 years in jail for everyone involved in approving the payment.
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#9> Ransomware is a profit-driven enterprise. If it is made unprofitable, most attacks will quickly stop.
This is conjecture presented as fact.
Here is an alternative conjecture: what if ransomware is mainly a sociopathically-driven enterprise, with a side interest in profit? Or what if a good chunk of it is?
How many ransomware perpetrators have we captured, and subjected to psychological study, to be able to confidently say what ransomware is or is not?
Re: The push to ban ransom payments is gaining momentum
#10Once companies are held accountable for the weapons and whatever else the money they paid in ransom gets spent on, things will finally change. Until then, we use the word "victim" with too much lenience. The secondary victims, the ones getting bombed, or the ones that will be targeted and threatened with the nukes that just got paid for with the ransom money, shouldn't be left out of the equation as they have been th…
Nukes? Not to hyperfixate lol i get your point but whyd you throw that in there?
I'm guessing because a lot of the ransom orgs are Russian with obvious ties to power.