Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
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Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
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Re: Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
#2No, privacy is not a crime... But money laundering is.
Re: Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
#3No, privacy is not a crime... But money laundering is.
Was he, specifically, laundering money?
People launder money through Spotify, why aren't the creators of Spotify being raked across the coals like this?
Re: Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
#4Re: Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
#5No, privacy is not a crime... But money laundering is.
Was he, specifically, laundering money? People launder money through Spotify, why aren't the creators of Spotify being raked across the coals like this?
I'm going to imagine because when the government tells Spotify that people are laundering money through their platform they kill the account and hand over data to investigators?
They don't deliberately run a service explicitly built to enable money laundering.
Basic things you can think about if you try really.
Re: Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
#6Should have used Monero.
Re: Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was he, specifically, laundering money? People launder money through Spotify, why aren't the creators of Spotify being raked across the coals like this?
I'm going to imagine because when the government tells Spotify that people are laundering money through their platform they kill the account and hand over data to investigators? They don't deliberately run a service explicitly built to enable money laundering. Basic things you can think about if you try really.
There was nothing explicit in the linked court document AFAICT, and I sincerely hope the judge isn't making decisions based on gut feeling and "common sense".
Re: Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was he, specifically, laundering money? People launder money through Spotify, why aren't the creators of Spotify being raked across the coals like this?
I'm going to imagine because when the government tells Spotify that people are laundering money through their platform they kill the account and hand over data to investigators? They don't deliberately run a service explicitly built to enable money laundering. Basic things you can think about if you try really.
You do notice in your example Spotify doesn't shut down? Afaik, nobody is allegeding that Tornado Cash maintained user accounts for money launderers.
It'd be more akin to if you had say McDonalds and people used your parking lot for Craigslist transactions (some of which were fradualent). Should you be required to close that McDonalds?
Re: Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
#9No, privacy is not a crime... But money laundering is.
Was he, specifically, laundering money? People launder money through Spotify, why aren't the creators of Spotify being raked across the coals like this?
Signal? Protonmail? Personal safes? Https? Car window tinting/privacy films? Government mints? What reason is there to use cash today except to engage in crime?
Re: Conviction of Tornado Cash programmer: Privacy is not a crime
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was he, specifically, laundering money? People launder money through Spotify, why aren't the creators of Spotify being raked across the coals like this?
Signal? Protonmail? Personal safes? Https? Car window tinting/privacy films? Government mints? What reason is there to use cash today except to engage in crime?
If cash, tobacco, or motorcycles were in invented this century they'd have been outlawed. Digital encryption barely squeeked through due to popping up before 9/11.