Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by jnnnthnn » Fri, May 17, 2024, 4:12 PM UTC

Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement
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Re: Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by jnnnthnn » Fri, May 17, 2024, 4:12 PM UTC

X.com links are currently broken on HN so I posted a screenshot instead

https://x.com/janleike/status/1791498187313963308

Re: Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by ldayley » Fri, May 17, 2024, 5:39 PM UTC

Thank you Jan for your work and your courage to act and speak candidly about these important topics.

Open question to HN: to your knowledge/experience which AGI-building companies or projects have a culture most closely aligned with keeping safety, security, privacy, etc. as high a priority as “winning the race” on this new frontier land-grab? I’d love to find and support those teams over the teams that spend more time focused on getting investment and marketshare.

Re: Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by tptacek » Fri, May 17, 2024, 5:42 PM UTC

So... this is relevant if you think AGI superintelligence is a thing, and not so clearly relevant otherwise?

Re: Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by aantix » Fri, May 17, 2024, 5:42 PM UTC

He's convinced that AGI is an eventuality.

His call for preparation makes it sound like it's near.

Re: Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by llamaimperative » Fri, May 17, 2024, 5:44 PM UTC

This won't make a dent in the logical armor of AI optimists:

[ ] If you are not intimately familiar with the development of AI, your warnings on safety can be disregarded due to your basic ignorance about the development of AI

[x] If you are intimately familiar with the development of AI, your warnings on safety can be disregarded due to potential conflicts of interest and koolaid drinking

Unbridled optimism lives another day!

Re: Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by llamaimperative » Fri, May 17, 2024, 5:45 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #4

So... this is relevant if you think AGI superintelligence is a thing, and not so clearly relevant otherwise?

What does "if you think AGI superintelligence is a thing" mean? If you believe it exists currently, could exist, will exist, or something else?

Re: Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 17, 2024, 5:45 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #4

So... this is relevant if you think AGI superintelligence is a thing, and not so clearly relevant otherwise?

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Re: Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by tempsy » Fri, May 17, 2024, 5:46 PM UTC

aantix wrote: post #5

He's convinced that AGI is an eventuality. His call for preparation makes it sound like it's near.

Hard to imagine. But if you actually believe that there's probably a bunch of ways to make millions in public markets betting on that outcome.

Re: Jan Leike's OpenAI departure statement

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Post by MVissers » Fri, May 17, 2024, 5:46 PM UTC

aantix wrote: post #5

He's convinced that AGI is an eventuality. His call for preparation makes it sound like it's near.

Probably within 5 years. Compute growing exponentially, algorithm improvement as well, multi modalities allows for different type of data training, etc…

Yeah, this shit is near. Also- Quite a dangerous experiment we’re running. And safety-first people are not at the helm anymore.