OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
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OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
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Re: OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
#2Re: OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
#3Isn't all/most their training data copyrighted anyways?
We just have to say it's fair use, because it is useful to everyone. Maybe just require them to open their model.
Re: OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
#4Feels weird that the Authors Guild so much wants to make public the names of the former OpenAI employees who created the data sets. That seems entirely unnecessary and irrelevant to the case. If what they did was part of their sanctioned work for OpenAI, they are not the ones responsible for how it was used.
Re: OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
#5Isn't copyright about reproducing and/or distributing?
Does training a model count as reproduction or distribution?
Or can copyright say something about how I consume my books? Can copyright prohibit me to light a fire, or whipe my behind with, say Harry Potter and the goblet of fire?
Re: OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
#6Assuming they train newer models using output from older versions, isn't that data they collected from "books1" and "books2" still encoded in the weights of their current models?
This also begs the question, does OpenAI really honor their privacy controls and not use user information to train their models if the user opts out? It seems most companies are operating in "ask for forgiveness than permission"-mode as they scramble to stay competitive in the AI race. [0]
Re: OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
#7Isn't copyright about reproducing and/or distributing? Does training a model count as reproduction or distribution? Or can copyright say something about how I consume my books? Can copyright prohibit me to light a fire, or whipe my behind with, say Harry Potter and the goblet of fire?
Well you usually cannot sell derivative works as your own.
Re: OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
#8Isn't copyright about reproducing and/or distributing? Does training a model count as reproduction or distribution? Or can copyright say something about how I consume my books? Can copyright prohibit me to light a fire, or whipe my behind with, say Harry Potter and the goblet of fire?
I am not sure if you meant 'wipe' or 'whip', but under the assumption of the former, I do not recommend Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire for the canonical wiping of the ass. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is where the game is, and always was, to the chagrin of many a copyright troll. I speak directly from experience.
Re: OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
#9Isn't all/most their training data copyrighted anyways? We just have to say it's fair use, because it is useful to everyone. Maybe just require them to open their model.
Yup. The big pretense we pull as an industry is to pretend all of the data for all these models are somehow legitimate. It's all illegal. But what are you gonna do about it?
Re: OpenAI destroyed a trove of books used to train AI models
#10Never fun when you're about to land on an article and automatically hit a paywall. Do better, BI