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No "Zero-Shot" Without Exponential Data

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Re: No "Zero-Shot" Without Exponential Data

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This deserves to be on the front page.

The authors ask whether image-to-text and text-to-image models (like CLIP and Stable Diffusion) are truly capable of zero-shot generalization.

To answer the question, the authors compile a list of 4000+ concepts (see paper for details on how they compile the list of concepts), and test how well 34 different models classify or generate those concepts at different scales of pretraining, from ~3M to ~400M samples.

They find that model performance on each concept scales linearly as the concept's frequency in pretraining data grows exponentially, i.e., the rarer the concept the less likely it is actually/properly learned -- which implies there is no "zero-shot" generalization.

The authors also release a long-tail test dataset that they cleverly name the "Let it Wag!" benchmark to allow other researchers to see for themselves how current models perform on the long tail of increasingly rare concepts.

Go read the whole thing, or at least the introduction. It's clear, concise, and well-written.

Re: No "Zero-Shot" Without Exponential Data

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Quite a few people saw this coming. It is still early to tell if we reached AI winter again or not, but at least we can see that news are slowing down.

If there are no breakthroughs and funding dries up in the near future, it will feel to many like going off a precipice at high speed.

Only the poor souls who survive the fall, at the very bottom of the precipice, will get to experience the AI winter.

Re: No "Zero-Shot" Without Exponential Data

#10

Quite a few people saw this coming. It is still early to tell if we reached AI winter again or not, but at least we can see that news are slowing down.

RAG seems to be all the rage. Not to mention the quest for the cooking up the correct cocktail of smaller MoE/ensemble models, and ... there's decades' worth of optimization work ahead (a few years of it seems to be already VC and edu grants funded), no?
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