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Gas and propane stoves linked to 50k cases of childhood asthma, study finds

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Discussion [0] (39 points, 3 days ago, 73 comments) [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40253637

Thank you — I had tried a search on hn.agnolia.com for "natural gas" in the last week, but I see now that was the wrong search term...I posted simply because I wanted to see the discourse on this study.

Re: Gas and propane stoves linked to 50k cases of childhood asthma, study finds

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There’s no way around the production of combustion byproducts, but as the article states this is managed with proper ventilation - something that most builders skimp on. With the current focus on tight air envelopes, this might actually get worse compared to our older leakier way of building and sealing homes.

There’s also an education and awareness aspect to this! If you’re aware of the risks, by all means get a gas stove and vent properly. However I bet the vast majority of Americans are unaware of the risks and their ventilation systems inadequacy

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There’s no way around the production of combustion byproducts, but as the article states this is managed with proper ventilation - something that most builders skimp on. With the current focus on tight air envelopes, this might actually get worse compared to our older leakier way of building and sealing homes. There’s also an education and awareness aspect to this! If you’re aware of the risks, by all means get a gas…

The fume hood/microwave above the stove combos that seem to be standard now are terrible. They vent poorly and clog quickly. The microwave internals don't leave enough room for a wide vent, and the ventilation is shared by the microwave (which also means the microwave dies when it clogs).

Re: Gas and propane stoves linked to 50k cases of childhood asthma, study finds

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Does anyone know of residential range hoods where the motor is at the top of the stack rather than in the kitchen? I’d love to have a whopper of a motor but outside my house rather than the current in-kitchen options which seem to be either (a) powerful but so loud you can’t think or (b) ineffective but quiet

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There’s no way around the production of combustion byproducts, but as the article states this is managed with proper ventilation - something that most builders skimp on. With the current focus on tight air envelopes, this might actually get worse compared to our older leakier way of building and sealing homes. There’s also an education and awareness aspect to this! If you’re aware of the risks, by all means get a gas…

The fume hood/microwave above the stove combos that seem to be standard now are terrible. They vent poorly and clog quickly. The microwave internals don't leave enough room for a wide vent, and the ventilation is shared by the microwave (which also means the microwave dies when it clogs).

They also often don't actually vent externally, they just cycle the air through a mesh (and maybe a carbon) filter and exhaust it back into the room.

Re: Gas and propane stoves linked to 50k cases of childhood asthma, study finds

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One thing I learned from the california wildfires, after buying an indoor air quality monitor, was that doing something as innocuous as baking a pizza in an ELECTRIC oven was enough to spike the AQI PM 2.5 air quality to 400, briefly (15 min) in our 1200 sq ft unit. In the bay area PM2.5 outdoors usually hovers between 5 and 35, with 75 being roughly when haze is noticeable at longer distances. 300+ is what happens when certain international cities have days-long fireworks festivals. I was measuring 400 with an electric oven cooking a frozen pizza from safeway.

Unless it's 115F outside or driving rain sideways onto the window, it's almost always wise to crack a window when cooking. Food throws off a ton of stuff, smoke and various compounds.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fume hood/microwave above the stove combos that seem to be standard now are terrible. They vent poorly and clog quickly. The microwave internals don't leave enough room for a wide vent, and the ventilation is shared by the microwave (which also means the microwave dies when it clogs).

They also often don't actually vent externally, they just cycle the air through a mesh (and maybe a carbon) filter and exhaust it back into the room.

That’s a requirement if you build European energy grade A+++ house (which is a minimum in LT) - can’t just be pulling warm air out and replacing with cold one (idk maybe an HRV can compensate for it).
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