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Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by _23sd »

I could see this being really bad for the site. A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter, and if the new terms actively make Pixiv worse for artists in the rest of the world then its importance could decline even further.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

#4

Post by bluefirebrand »

commandlinefan wrote: post #2

I've been thinking all my adult life that, eventually, society has _got_ to get more reasonable about the human body but... there doesn't seem to be any evidence that we're getting anywhere close anytime soon.

I am friends with some artists who do some NSFW content and they feel they are just being strangled off of the internet at this point

Even ones that are just looking for a place to have easy hosting and sharing of images are being pushed off of more and more sites

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by spaceribs »

_23sd wrote: post #3

I could see this being really bad for the site. A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter, and if the new terms actively make Pixiv worse for artists in the rest of the world then its importance could decline even further.

The change of making it harder or shutting off access just pushes people to reroute their behavior, moving large segments of the market into non-transparent (and non-taxable) crypto, further expanding the use of VPNs, and decentralizing the means of publishing and posting materials.

The side effects of prohibitions are about as predictable as these moral crusades.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #4
commandlinefan wrote: post #2

I've been thinking all my adult life that, eventually, society has _got_ to get more reasonable about the human body but... there doesn't seem to be any evidence that we're getting anywhere close anytime soon.

I am friends with some artists who do some NSFW content and they feel they are just being strangled off of the internet at this point Even ones that are just looking for a place to have easy hosting and sharing of images are being pushed off of more and more sites

I’m actually quite optimistic about this!

Yes! Push the porn to the “dark web”. Make it a pain in the ass. Ask for ID. Go all out!!

…because… this is how we’ll get a free internet again. This is how we’ll get real encrypted networks. This is how we go back to the good internet - except - it’s going to be harder to remove the bad stuff.

But this is what they’re doing. Strangling themselves with faux-morality and New Puritan complaintism.

So I’ll take the good effect of an internet that isn’t controlled by 6 companies with the bad that some people may say or do things I don’t like.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by schoen »

spaceribs wrote: post #5
_23sd wrote: post #3

I could see this being really bad for the site. A lot of Japanese illustrators were already treating it as an afterthought compared to X/Twitter, and if the new terms actively make Pixiv worse for artists in the rest of the world then its importance could decline even further.

The change of making it harder or shutting off access just pushes people to reroute their behavior, moving large segments of the market into non-transparent (and non-taxable) crypto, further expanding the use of VPNs, and decentralizing the means of publishing and posting materials. The side effects of prohibitions are about as predictable as these moral crusades.

People have said for decades that governments can't control Internet content because people will help each other circumvent the restrictions by technical means. I've found that very inspiring and have personally tried to join in.

But I notice (maybe especially on this day of the TikTok ban) that lots of people at least sometimes sympathize with the idea that the governments have good reasons to restrict information. And not that many people anywhere have ever used censorship circumvention technologies.

So you might say "the more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers" or something, but the cultural will and momentum to work around Internet-balkanizing measures is ... not that massive and not that universal.

I don't mean to say that people working around geographic blocking doesn't happen ... it does to some noticeable extent at least for licensed streaming, for gambling, and for porn. But I guess significant majorities typically say "oh well!" and accept restrictions as the new normal.

Re: Pixiv Blocks Adult Content, but Only for US and UK Users

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Post by vonwoodson »

schoen wrote: post #8
spaceribs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The change of making it harder or shutting off access just pushes people to reroute their behavior, moving large segments of the market into non-transparent (and non-taxable) crypto, further expanding the use of VPNs, and decentralizing the means of publishing and posting materials. The side effects of prohibitions are about as predictable as these moral crusades.

People have said for decades that governments can't control Internet content because people will help each other circumvent the restrictions by technical means. I've found that very inspiring and have personally tried to join in. But I notice (maybe especially on this day of the TikTok ban) that lots of people at least sometimes sympathize with the idea that the governments have good reasons to restrict information.…

Yeah, the TikTok ban isn't about restricting content for US users, it's about restricting the data vacuum that is the PRC. TikTok has already been banned for Govmnt employees for years. And, for good reason.

Sometimes, we have to remind ourselves that our government is not the bad guy. The bad guys are the bad guys; and those bad guys aren't often bad to their own kind.

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