EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
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EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
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Re: EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
#2I read this as "European Police Chiefs want everyone to leave their digital keys under the doormat". I always have the idea that police are late to this particular arms race and don't realize that their way of thinking about security is still somewhere last century.
I mean, I don't even mean it to be insulting or anything. People can't be good at everything. It seems that police I've met so far (nElse the police chiefs would (for one) realize that they need that end-to-end encryption themselves. It's a fairly basic building block, you'd think.
OTOH, maybe my impression is wrong, and there are exceptionally skilled police people who I've just never met? But why would they be advising their chiefs so badly then?
Re: EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
#3I read this as "European Police Chiefs want everyone to leave their digital keys under the doormat". I always have the idea that police are late to this particular arms race and don't realize that their way of thinking about security is still somewhere last century. I mean, I don't even mean it to be insulting or anything. People can't be good at everything. It seems that police I've met so far (n Else the police chi…
They are trying to maximize their power to their own advantage, just like everyone else. (Un)fortunately it’s way too late to ban e2e encryption for anyone who really wants it (i.e. nerds and criminals), but they might end up banning it for the general public out of spite.
Re: EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
#4I read this as "European Police Chiefs want everyone to leave their digital keys under the doormat". I always have the idea that police are late to this particular arms race and don't realize that their way of thinking about security is still somewhere last century. I mean, I don't even mean it to be insulting or anything. People can't be good at everything. It seems that police I've met so far (n Else the police chi…
The problem isn’t outdated thinking. Outdated thinking is fine. Conventional police tactics, and surveillance, work just great with encryption.
The problem is a very futuristic vision of what surveillance should look like.
Re: EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
#5Once the encryption is banned, the next step will be for online safety czars to censor speech they disagree with, even in private communications. No thanks.
Re: EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
#6Once the encryption is banned, the next step will be for online safety czars to censor speech they disagree with, even in private communications. No thanks.
In France, there are many laws against free speech (lois mémorielles, anti haine en ligne, anti Le Pen, anti fake news (including criticizing the government), etc...).
https://www.laquadrature.net/en/censorship/
Refusing to disclose encryption keys could lead you to be prosecuted for “terrorist criminal association”.
https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/12/15/encryption-discus...
Re: EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
#7I read this as "European Police Chiefs want everyone to leave their digital keys under the doormat". I always have the idea that police are late to this particular arms race and don't realize that their way of thinking about security is still somewhere last century. I mean, I don't even mean it to be insulting or anything. People can't be good at everything. It seems that police I've met so far (n Else the police chi…
> police are late to this particular arms race and don't realize
It is smarter and simpler than that: Once the use of encryption keys is banned, everyone using one will label himself "I am a terrorist" and will be at least annoyed endlessly by the judicial system.
https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/12/15/encryption-discus...
Re: EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
#8I read this as "European Police Chiefs want everyone to leave their digital keys under the doormat". I always have the idea that police are late to this particular arms race and don't realize that their way of thinking about security is still somewhere last century. I mean, I don't even mean it to be insulting or anything. People can't be good at everything. It seems that police I've met so far (n Else the police chi…
It's not a bug, it's a feature. In other words, I don't think they're being ignorant at all. They've been pushing this angle from different places in the EU and this is one more. They won't stop until it's a reality.
Re: EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
#9I read this as "European Police Chiefs want everyone to leave their digital keys under the doormat". I always have the idea that police are late to this particular arms race and don't realize that their way of thinking about security is still somewhere last century. I mean, I don't even mean it to be insulting or anything. People can't be good at everything. It seems that police I've met so far (n Else the police chi…
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Re: EU Police Chiefs want an end to end-to-end encryption
#10The aim is probably not social security, but political power through total censorship.