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Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

#3
Apple is a predatory partner

Every partnership Apple enters must result in Apple winning and the other party simply being a subservient cog

So, no one wants to do business with them in new markets where Apple doesn't have leverage

This is why they couldn't get a manufacturing partner for the now-dead Apple car...no one wanted to be the Foxconn of cars (they do all the work, Apple gets all the credit)

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

#4
CarPlay mostly works, and although it has issues it's definitely user-focused.

CarPlay doesn't prevent car makers from tracking vehicle activity.

In the end, consumers don't give a shit about the in-vehicle infotainment. It sucks, or it's AA/CarPlay. The first generation of iDrive showed that rich people people will buy cars in spite of the in-car stuff. In fact, most car infotainment sucks, yet people still buy cars.

Let's turn the question around: why would car makers want to spend millions of dollars a year rolling their own infotainment system? So they can make incremental revenue selling ads and user data? So they have control? Control over what, exactly?

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

#5
Article is really about the unofficially called "Carplay 2", a deeper integration that Apple announced in 2022 but hasn't been heard about since.

As the article itself says, CarPlay Original Flavor is a massive success, I'm in the "79% of drivers only consider a car if it has CarPlay" (bye-bye GM!)

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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post #4

CarPlay mostly works, and although it has issues it's definitely user-focused. CarPlay doesn't prevent car makers from tracking vehicle activity. In the end, consumers don't give a shit about the in-vehicle infotainment. It sucks, or it's AA/CarPlay. The first generation of iDrive showed that rich people people will buy cars in spite of the in-car stuff. In fact, most car infotainment sucks, yet people still buy cars…

>Control over what, exactly?

Planned obsolesence. Without proper CarPlay/AA integration, car manufacturers get to decide when those whiz-bang infotainment features stop working. You'd have to replace the whole car to get those features back instead of just buying a new phone.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

#7
We are in the golden age of phonecar integration, so enjoy it while it lasts. In a few more years 100% of auto manufacturers are going to start charging a monthly subscription for this, split between them and Apple/Google.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

#8
Carplay2 seems cool, but if it takes away my ability to just jump into whatever new car with my iphone or android phone and use aa/carplay I don't want to lose carplay. I have 3 cars with carplay and I don't want to have to set all of them up and lose portability.

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

#9
As CarPlay aims to dominate even more screens in our cars, isn't Apple simply replacing buttons and dials with potentially distracting and fingerprint-smeared touch screens just to extend its software reach?

Re: Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

#10
After spending a very long time trying to find the perfect non-Tesla EV with both carplay, good range, cargo space etc… I gave up and “settled” for a Model Y LR. The software in a Tesla is just as good as Elon is bad. Not to turn this into an anti-Elon thing… But the software in the Tesla is really second-to-none, and more folks would find out if it weren’t for Elon.
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