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Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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1. MobileCoin premines 250m coins

2. Moxie is paid for being on their board

3. Moxie directs non-profit Signal to integrate MobileCoin

4. MobileCoin offers 50% of their premine for sale.

5. Signal/Mobilecoin news spikes price to $60

6. Moxie steps down as CEO of Signal but remains on board

7. Mobilecoin price today is $0.09

8. Moxie is no longer involved at Signal

This is why we need decentralization.

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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Well this is certainly an unexpected and weird announcement. I actually thought Moxie was (the main person behind) Signal. Not giving any details about this feels weird to me. How are we supposed to trust an organization that prides itself to be the beacon of free communication, when they communicate so... cryptically? Does anyone have more information on what happened here? (And what/if any are the current alternatives?)

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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DHH's "I trust Meta over Signal because a board member at Signal is woke" is utter content-farming clickbaity dishonest discourse for someone of his skill and intelligence (given the guarantees inherent in the Signal protocol and its opensource nature) and his previously stated stance against cancel culture [0]. This quest for influence seems to break people's brains in weird ways.

[0] https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1283892240314580992

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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post #4

1. MobileCoin premines 250m coins 2. Moxie is paid for being on their board 3. Moxie directs non-profit Signal to integrate MobileCoin 4. MobileCoin offers 50% of their premine for sale. 5. Signal/Mobilecoin news spikes price to $60 6. Moxie steps down as CEO of Signal but remains on board 7. Mobilecoin price today is $0.09 8. Moxie is no longer involved at Signal This is why we need decentralization.

> This is why we need decentralization.

That's an interesting interpretation. I read it as 'all cryptocurrencies are scams'.

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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post #7
post #4

1. MobileCoin premines 250m coins 2. Moxie is paid for being on their board 3. Moxie directs non-profit Signal to integrate MobileCoin 4. MobileCoin offers 50% of their premine for sale. 5. Signal/Mobilecoin news spikes price to $60 6. Moxie steps down as CEO of Signal but remains on board 7. Mobilecoin price today is $0.09 8. Moxie is no longer involved at Signal This is why we need decentralization.

> This is why we need decentralization. That's an interesting interpretation. I read it as 'all cryptocurrencies are scams'.

Not all cryptocurrencies are scams, not all traffic on Tor is CSAM, and not matrix messages are spam. Some of us use all of these decentralized systems daily for their actual intended use cases of sovereignty and privacy.

Things like money and messaging are too important to a functioning society to allow any single party to control.

We need -actually- decentralized money and -actually- decentralized communication.

MobileCoin and Signal are neither and the results are predictable.

Re: I'm no longer involved at Signal

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post #4

1. MobileCoin premines 250m coins 2. Moxie is paid for being on their board 3. Moxie directs non-profit Signal to integrate MobileCoin 4. MobileCoin offers 50% of their premine for sale. 5. Signal/Mobilecoin news spikes price to $60 6. Moxie steps down as CEO of Signal but remains on board 7. Mobilecoin price today is $0.09 8. Moxie is no longer involved at Signal This is why we need decentralization.

> This is why we need decentralization. That's an interesting interpretation. I read it as 'all cryptocurrencies are scams'.

If 'all cryptocurrencies are scams' then those that staff their boards are scammers.
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