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Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin?

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Re: Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin?

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When a patient shows up with a blood glucose >300 mg/dl it is mystifying why a doctor would not simply give them a pamphlet about konjac noodles and a coupon for $3 off cauliflower crust pizza.

Surely it must be a conspiracy when you hear things like “treating acute hyperglycemia” and “preventing imminent kidney failure, coma and death” as opposed to “have you heard of keto tik tok?” Perhaps the ADA should encourage prolonged high blood glucose and focus on making sure their diet cookbooks are printed in braille so that the patients they let go blind on purpose can use them?

Re: Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin?

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When my dad told me he had type 2 diabetes, I told him to go on a paleo diet, basically low carb. He gave me a bunch of reasons why that was a bad idea, and had already read some books recommended by the ADA, which he felt backed him up. He spent over 6 years trying all kinds of stuff (everything except low carb and no sugar). Eventually he found a doctor doing a program that puts type 2 diabetics on an extreme elimination diet, no solid food at all for several months… way more extreme, and way less sustainable, than what I suggested. He eventually kicked it with that, but it took a long time, a lot of money, and an extreme intervention.

During that period my dad was fighting with this, my mom was also diagnosed with type 2. I told her the exact same thing. She did it, and 3 months later she was fine, for the cost of some meat and vegetables.

The ADA is a joke. I’ve found books from over 100 years ago talking about avoiding carbs/sugar to fix diabetes. This isn’t new stuff, there’s just no money in it I guess.

Re: Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin?

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When I was diagnosed with diabetes type 2 my doctor pushed the standard drugs on me without mentioning the alternative. When I found out about low carb, tried it and succeeded with it, my doctor just smiled and nodded. He wasn't surprised. But he was entirely unwilling to deviate from the standard of care dictated by the tablet he carried around. He was a very experience well trained doctor ... acting like a clerk performing a script.

I wonder why there is such a widespread distrust of authority in this country?

Re: Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin?

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When my dad told me he had type 2 diabetes, I told him to go on a paleo diet, basically low carb. He gave me a bunch of reasons why that was a bad idea, and had already read some books recommended by the ADA, which he felt backed him up. He spent over 6 years trying all kinds of stuff (everything except low carb and no sugar). Eventually he found a doctor doing a program that puts type 2 diabetics on an extreme elimi…

Could you please add references to the > 100 years old books? Genuinely asking.

Re: Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin?

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post #6

When my dad told me he had type 2 diabetes, I told him to go on a paleo diet, basically low carb. He gave me a bunch of reasons why that was a bad idea, and had already read some books recommended by the ADA, which he felt backed him up. He spent over 6 years trying all kinds of stuff (everything except low carb and no sugar). Eventually he found a doctor doing a program that puts type 2 diabetics on an extreme elimi…

Could you please add references to the > 100 years old books? Genuinely asking.

Google: Banting Diet

Re: Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin?

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I imagine for the same reason that Ozempic will become standard of care for obesity compared to "diet and exercise."

It doesn't work. It scientifically works, but it is not something most people are willing to implement.

Sure, if you eat a low-carb diet, you can reverse type 2 diabeties, but virtually nobody is going to be willing to do that. You would kill a lot of people with that advice.

Re: Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin?

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When a patient shows up with a blood glucose >300 mg/dl it is mystifying why a doctor would not simply give them a pamphlet about konjac noodles and a coupon for $3 off cauliflower crust pizza. Surely it must be a conspiracy when you hear things like “treating acute hyperglycemia” and “preventing imminent kidney failure, coma and death” as opposed to “have you heard of keto tik tok?” Perhaps the ADA should encourage…

How many people are willing to eat cauliflower crust pizza?

Dietary changes have utterly failed in practice at treating any other condition within the population at large outside of perhaps avoiding nuts.

Re: Why does the American Diabetes Association push insulin?

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When my dad told me he had type 2 diabetes, I told him to go on a paleo diet, basically low carb. He gave me a bunch of reasons why that was a bad idea, and had already read some books recommended by the ADA, which he felt backed him up. He spent over 6 years trying all kinds of stuff (everything except low carb and no sugar). Eventually he found a doctor doing a program that puts type 2 diabetics on an extreme elimi…

People also wouldn't be willing to do it. Trying to fix obesity with diet has been a disaster at the population level.
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