The Stem-Ification of Society

I understand being upset there's a movement excluding your field and then asserting its a problem. Seemingly the author doesn't understand the purpose behind STEM.

>The new logic of a post-Marxian techno-capitalism is an economic process which transforms life processes — in this case interaction through technology and social networks — into commodities

Oh yes, we're definitely going post-marxian that's for sure.

>Data colonialism opens a new frontier for Marxian labor alienation: the way in which labor, in this case our contribution to these platforms, distances us from our humanity

You're totally able to create your marxist movement against STEM.

Lets be realistic though, we're past the marxist peak. It's time for Marxism to become a religion. Move out of the politics field and operate probably pretty successfully as a religion.

>In China, I was able to leave my computer at my table in a cafe without fear of it being taken because I knew every square inch of that cafe was in the view of cameras.

China's state surveillance and massacres of dissidents is not something to be prideful about.

Re: The Stem-Ification of Society

#5

Post by wumeow » Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 1:51 PM UTC

incomingpain wrote: post #4

>As a student and proponent of humanities education The STEM movement intentionally excludes humanities and socials on purpose. I understand being upset there's a movement excluding your field and then asserting its a problem. Seemingly the author doesn't understand the purpose behind STEM. >The new logic of a post-Marxian techno-capitalism is an economic process which transforms life processes — in this case interac…

>> In China, I was able to leave my computer at my table in a cafe without fear of it being taken because I knew every square inch of that cafe was in the view of cameras.

> China's state surveillance and massacres of dissidents is not something to be prideful about.

East Asian countries tend to be low-crime anyway even without blanket surveillance.

Re: The Stem-Ification of Society

#6

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 5:01 PM UTC

[deleted]

Re: The Stem-Ification of Society

#7

Post by ThrowawayTestr » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 5:03 PM UTC

wumeow wrote: post #5

incomingpain wrote: post #4

>As a student and proponent of humanities education The STEM movement intentionally excludes humanities and socials on purpose. I understand being upset there's a movement excluding your field and then asserting its a problem. Seemingly the author doesn't understand the purpose behind STEM. >The new logic of a post-Marxian techno-capitalism is an economic process which transforms life processes — in this case interac…

>> In China, I was able to leave my computer at my table in a cafe without fear of it being taken because I knew every square inch of that cafe was in the view of cameras. > China's state surveillance and massacres of dissidents is not something to be prideful about. East Asian countries tend to be low-crime anyway even without blanket surveillance.

That's because being a criminal is seen as a bad thing in Asia.

Re: The Stem-Ification of Society

#8

Post by dingnuts » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 5:03 PM UTC

incomingpain wrote: post #4

>As a student and proponent of humanities education The STEM movement intentionally excludes humanities and socials on purpose. I understand being upset there's a movement excluding your field and then asserting its a problem. Seemingly the author doesn't understand the purpose behind STEM. >The new logic of a post-Marxian techno-capitalism is an economic process which transforms life processes — in this case interac…

>Lets be realistic though, we're past the marxist peak. It's time for Marxism to become a religion. Move out of the politics field and operate probably pretty successfully as a religion.

it already is a religion, essentially, isn't it? it's just an atheist one -- aka, an ideology. Is there really any difference between a religion and an ideology that claims to explain every detail of the world, other than a deity? I mean, just take a look at r/latestagecapitalism -- even the term Late Stage Capitalism comes directly from Marx, except he was talking about the 19th century and the impending collapse of capitalism then. Doesn't that sound like an apocalypse myth? The people on that subreddit remind me very strongly of the rapture evangelicals. They'll be proven right.. any day now... they're sure of it...

Re: The Stem-Ification of Society

#9

Post by dingnuts » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 5:04 PM UTC

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #7

wumeow wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> In China, I was able to leave my computer at my table in a cafe without fear of it being taken because I knew every square inch of that cafe was in the view of cameras. > China's state surveillance and massacres of dissidents is not something to be prideful about. East Asian countries tend to be low-crime anyway even without blanket surveillance.

That's because being a criminal is seen as a bad thing in Asia.

as opposed to..?

Re: The Stem-Ification of Society

#10

Post by mixedmath » Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 5:13 PM UTC

incomingpain wrote: post #4

>As a student and proponent of humanities education The STEM movement intentionally excludes humanities and socials on purpose. I understand being upset there's a movement excluding your field and then asserting its a problem. Seemingly the author doesn't understand the purpose behind STEM. >The new logic of a post-Marxian techno-capitalism is an economic process which transforms life processes — in this case interac…

> The STEM movement intentionally excludes humanities and socials on purpose.

Could you say more?