EU data shows PHEVs emit 350% more CO2 than tested values
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EU data shows PHEVs emit 350% more CO2 than tested values
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#2Paywalled. Here’s the archive link: https://archive.is/aSU79
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#4"these vehicles are currently not realizing their potential, largely because they are not being charged and driven fully electrically as frequently as assumed"
That's crazy to me, gasoline is so much more expensive than electricity, why wouldn't people charge the batteries more often?
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#5Please, send the PHEVs to the US where we have garages and such to actually utilize them properly...
Re: EU data shows PHEVs emit 350% more CO2 than tested values
#6In Germany you get tax benefits when buying a plugin hybrid instead of a pure gasoline car ... There's always been the legend that people return their leased PHEVs and the charging cable is still wrapped in plastic in the trunk and has never been used. Maybe there's some truth to this after all.
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#7Hybrids were mostly a tax scam in my opinion. In Germany until recently you could get a 6,000-8,000 € subsidy on these cars and when leasing them through a company you got a really nice tax reduction from 1% of the list price to 0,25 %, which amounts to several thousand Euros per year as well. Not to forget the vehicle tax was drastically reduced as well. Overall mostly very affluent people bought these cars, and the net effect for the environment was probably negative. It’s just a stupid idea to put a tiny battery into a 500 HP car and pretend it’s helping the environment when it just contributes to putting more cars on the road.
Re: EU data shows PHEVs emit 350% more CO2 than tested values
#8"these vehicles are currently not realizing their potential, largely because they are not being charged and driven fully electrically as frequently as assumed" That's crazy to me, gasoline is so much more expensive than electricity, why wouldn't people charge the batteries more often?
>That's crazy to me, gasoline is so much more expensive than electricity, why wouldn't people charge the batteries more often?
Of course any sane person would want to charge their car electrically. So I can only imagine that the inability to do so is the problem.
My guess would be because many people can't. In most European cities having a dedicated place to charge your car is not affordable to most people. Which is one reason manufacturers targeted their BEVs at the higher end, the population who has a garage and can install a charger there.
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#9Personal anecdotes ahaead:
I'm German. My grandpa was an electrical engineer. He is very enthusiastic about his PHEV and talks about it alot. He bought one because not only is he interested, but also PHEV sales got heavily subsidized (i think like 6000€ or smth) and so many people bought one in his area as well. Apparently, a surprising amount of old middle class German people bought PHEVs and literally never charge it. My grandpa told me he onced asked his neighbor for a cable and that thing was brand new.
I'm not sure if its ignorance or deliberate though. If you never use the battery the resale value might be higher? It's also literally just an anecdote but it was surprising
Re: EU data shows PHEVs emit 350% more CO2 than tested values
#10Please, send the PHEVs to the US where we have garages and such to actually utilize them properly...
What is this garage thing you mention? We don't have those in Germany!