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The First Beta of Android 15

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Re: The First Beta of Android 15

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Post by CuriousCosmic »

So when does RCS get a public API? I like google messages and all but I'd kill to see support open up to any of the other messaging apps that exist.

And as it is, the API restriction that's locking RCS support in is entirely an arbitrary one.

Re: The First Beta of Android 15

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Post by throw0101c »

magnio wrote: post #2

> Key management for end-to-end encryption Hopefully this is sign that Android will support E2EE RCS that is interoperable with iOS.

> Hopefully this is sign that Android will support E2EE RCS that is interoperable with iOS.

Android/Google encryption is proprietary as evidenced by the fact that the Content-Type header is "application/vnd.google.rcs.encryption":

* https://www.gstatic.com/messages/papers/messages_e2ee.pdf § Messages Encryption

They state:

> In order to store and exchange user public keys like identity keys and prekeys, we need to have a central key server. Unlike the RCS messaging servers, the key server is currently only hosted by Google.

* Ibid § Key Server

For interoperability there would (potentially) need to be a neutral third-party where everyone's public key(s) are present. ("Everyone" potentially being all folks who use RCS, which may be every phone on the planet.)

Re: The First Beta of Android 15

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Post by webdevver »

I wish there was a word about desktop mode. Plugging in my phone and having Windows 11 or Ubuntu or whatever pop up on my desktop has been my lifelong nerd fantasy. Something like DeX, but a "real" desktop OS (where i can open terminals, build stuff, maybe even launch nested VMs), and as a first-class citizen. Maybe Google/Android could have their own desktop skew of Android (like how Microsoft has Azure Linux optimized for their environment), e.g. take Debian and add integrations to it for the rest of the Android system, like when you get notifications, they will appear in the Gnome dock, etc.

Re: The First Beta of Android 15

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Post by idle_zealot »

webdevver wrote: post #6

I wish there was a word about desktop mode. Plugging in my phone and having Windows 11 or Ubuntu or whatever pop up on my desktop has been my lifelong nerd fantasy. Something like DeX, but a "real" desktop OS (where i can open terminals, build stuff, maybe even launch nested VMs), and as a first-class citizen. Maybe Google/Android could have their own desktop skew of Android (like how Microsoft has Azure Linux optimi…

I know you said you wanted it as a fist-class citizen, but you can roll your own here. Termux lets you set up a chroot Linux install, and you can run a display server and VNC in it. Then you can get a VNC viewer Android app and hook it up to localhost, hook up an external display+keyboard+mouse and you have yourself a heavily-compromised Linux desktop!

Re: The First Beta of Android 15

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Post by soramimo »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #8

With these being the major changes, it very much feels like Android is "done". That changes from now on will be small tweaks rather than fundamental redesigns?

Maybe that's a good thing? I've been enjoying my "done" KDE Linux desktop for many years and actually don't want people to "move around my furniture" all the time.

Re: The First Beta of Android 15

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Post by AndrewDucker »

soramimo wrote: post #9
AndrewDucker wrote: post #8

With these being the major changes, it very much feels like Android is "done". That changes from now on will be small tweaks rather than fundamental redesigns?

Maybe that's a good thing? I've been enjoying my "done" KDE Linux desktop for many years and actually don't want people to "move around my furniture" all the time.

I'm not complaining if that is the case!

Just wondering if that is where we've got to or if I was missing something.

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