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Germanwings Flight 9525

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Re: Germanwings Flight 9525

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He looked for other avenues of suicide, and seeing no way out, chose that one. I know you can call it a premeditated mass murder, but when you don't even value your own life how can you value the life of others? I doubt they even registered in his mind.

Re: Germanwings Flight 9525

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Maybe most horrifying is that the passengers would have been aware that something was wrong because they would have seen the locked-out pilot swinging an object against the door. There supposedly exists [footage](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/01/germanwings-pa...) that passengers recorded of the plane's final moments with their phones, which survived the crash.

Re: Germanwings Flight 9525

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Maybe most horrifying is that the passengers would have been aware that something was wrong because they would have seen the locked-out pilot swinging an object against the door. There supposedly exists [footage]( https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/01/germanwings-pa... ) that passengers recorded of the plane's final moments with their phones, which survived the crash.

Those must have been an agonizing ten minutes for the passengers. Let's hope the video gets lost to time.

Re: Germanwings Flight 9525

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post #2

He looked for other avenues of suicide, and seeing no way out, chose that one. I know you can call it a premeditated mass murder, but when you don't even value your own life how can you value the life of others? I doubt they even registered in his mind.

> you can call it a premeditated mass murder

Yes, very much. I can and will call it that.

> when you don't even value your own life how can you value the life of others?

They don’t have to feel the value of others, just observe that the others seem to value theirs. This is bulshit reasoning.

> He looked for other avenues of suicide, and seeing no way out, chose that one.

Now that is something i don’t believe for a second. An adult human with access to the internet and a bank card has plenty other options. An adult human with access to a car has many options. Almost all of those options pose no harm to others at all. It is difficult to come up with options which would harm as many others as the option he took.

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This wasn't an accident, it was a direct result of the "you can never be too careful" approach to airline security.

If we didn't have reinforced locked doors this crash would not have happened.

On balance perhaps reinforced locked doors save more lives, but there are consequences both ways.

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post #2

He looked for other avenues of suicide, and seeing no way out, chose that one. I know you can call it a premeditated mass murder, but when you don't even value your own life how can you value the life of others? I doubt they even registered in his mind.

> you can call it a premeditated mass murder Yes, very much. I can and will call it that. > when you don't even value your own life how can you value the life of others? They don’t have to feel the value of others, just observe that the others seem to value theirs. This is bulshit reasoning. > He looked for other avenues of suicide, and seeing no way out, chose that one. Now that is something i don’t believe for a se…

I think you're right actually on second thought

Re: Germanwings Flight 9525

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post #6
post #2

He looked for other avenues of suicide, and seeing no way out, chose that one. I know you can call it a premeditated mass murder, but when you don't even value your own life how can you value the life of others? I doubt they even registered in his mind.

> you can call it a premeditated mass murder Yes, very much. I can and will call it that. > when you don't even value your own life how can you value the life of others? They don’t have to feel the value of others, just observe that the others seem to value theirs. This is bulshit reasoning. > He looked for other avenues of suicide, and seeing no way out, chose that one. Now that is something i don’t believe for a se…

Are you saying Lubitz didn't intentionally crash the plane?

Re: Germanwings Flight 9525

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you can call it a premeditated mass murder Yes, very much. I can and will call it that. > when you don't even value your own life how can you value the life of others? They don’t have to feel the value of others, just observe that the others seem to value theirs. This is bulshit reasoning. > He looked for other avenues of suicide, and seeing no way out, chose that one. Now that is something i don’t believe for a se…

Are you saying Lubitz didn't intentionally crash the plane?

No? I read it as decidedly the opposite.
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