What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
1–10 of 128 posts
Re: What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
#2From Conclusion:
> This paper has studied the effects of the introduction of flexible pay for pub- lic school teachers on the composition of the workforce, teachers’ effort, and student achievement. A switch away from seniority-based salary schedules toward pay-for-quality in a subset of Wisconsin school districts resulted in high-quality teachers moving to these FP districts and low-quality teachers either moving to dis-tricts which remained with the salary schedules or leaving the public school system altogether. As a result, the composition of the teaching workforce improved in FP districts. Effort exerted by all teachers also increased and, subsequently, test scores improved.
Re: What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
#3[deleted]
Re: What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
#4While it's difficult to study in a controlled way, any serious, considered attempt to improve the status quo in state schooling is an extremely good idea.
Re: What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
#5I saw this discussed on Marginal Revolution today as well.
My main question is whether the gains are fundamentally zero-sum, at least in the short term. Some districts implement flexible pay and some don’t, and then the best teachers move to get paid more. And the places that get left behind…?
In the long-run, increased pay ought to lead to more high-quality teachers entering the profession. But in the short term, this scheme seems likely to redistribute talent in ways that reinforce existing patterns of inequality.
Re: What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
#6The results confirm my biases, so probably too good to be true?
Re: What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
#7I saw this discussed on Marginal Revolution today as well. My main question is whether the gains are fundamentally zero-sum, at least in the short term. Some districts implement flexible pay and some don’t, and then the best teachers move to get paid more. And the places that get left behind…? In the long-run, increased pay ought to lead to more high-quality teachers entering the profession. But in the short term, th…
Well the whole point of such an experiment would be to generalize it.
Re: What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
#8I saw this discussed on Marginal Revolution today as well. My main question is whether the gains are fundamentally zero-sum, at least in the short term. Some districts implement flexible pay and some don’t, and then the best teachers move to get paid more. And the places that get left behind…? In the long-run, increased pay ought to lead to more high-quality teachers entering the profession. But in the short term, th…
> But in the short term, this scheme might judt redistribute talent in ways that reinforce existing patterns of inequality.
Aren't you assuming that rich districts with higher grades implement flexible pay? I think it would be the poor districts with worse grades that would be most likely to want to shake things up.
Re: What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
#9Should add (2021) to the title.
Re: What happens when we pay public high school teachers based on performance
#10I saw this discussed on Marginal Revolution today as well. My main question is whether the gains are fundamentally zero-sum, at least in the short term. Some districts implement flexible pay and some don’t, and then the best teachers move to get paid more. And the places that get left behind…? In the long-run, increased pay ought to lead to more high-quality teachers entering the profession. But in the short term, th…
good performance and putting in extra effort should be rewarded over those who just do their job at the minimum effort levels.
That's a fundamental problem with teacher pay, there are no bonusses, there are hardly incentives or room for raises. It's all just tenure based. Once you're in, you're in.