Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
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Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
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Re: Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
#2Much ado about nothing: you absolutely do not need a VAT number on an invoice. And there is zero chance an invoice for a Rust conference would be requalified as "non-business related expense" during a tax audit...
Re: Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
#3Much ado about nothing: you absolutely do not need a VAT number on an invoice. And there is zero chance an invoice for a Rust conference would be requalified as "non-business related expense" during a tax audit...
Source? Reference?
From my experience as a sole proprietor in the EU, yes... you very much need invoices issued with your VAT number for any business expense, or else you get in big trouble. (Also many invoices in EU are e-invoices, which means the tax authorities get updated in real-time, so your tax account gets updated automatically, so you don't have to file taxes -- you just see a balance of what you owe and from what transaction...)
Also... the author's main point is that policies should make sense, not that the loophole is difficult or risky to exploit.
Re: Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
#4Much ado about nothing: you absolutely do not need a VAT number on an invoice. And there is zero chance an invoice for a Rust conference would be requalified as "non-business related expense" during a tax audit...
Source? Reference? From my experience as a sole proprietor in the EU, yes... you very much need invoices issued with your VAT number for any business expense, or else you get in big trouble. (Also many invoices in EU are e-invoices, which means the tax authorities get updated in real-time, so your tax account gets updated automatically, so you don't have to file taxes -- you just see a balance of what you owe and fro…
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Re: Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
#6Much ado about nothing: you absolutely do not need a VAT number on an invoice. And there is zero chance an invoice for a Rust conference would be requalified as "non-business related expense" during a tax audit...
Source? Reference? From my experience as a sole proprietor in the EU, yes... you very much need invoices issued with your VAT number for any business expense, or else you get in big trouble. (Also many invoices in EU are e-invoices, which means the tax authorities get updated in real-time, so your tax account gets updated automatically, so you don't have to file taxes -- you just see a balance of what you owe and fro…
Depends where in the EU maybe? Also depends on the transaction. If the VAT number is on your business expense, you can sometimes avoid paying VAT upfront. Else you can often get your VAT reimbursed later, depending on whether it's a national purchase or an international purchase.
It's sometimes worth it to mention your VAT number as it can save money and/or effort, but I've not heard of it being mandatory, at least not in the Netherlands.
Re: Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
#7WARNING: UNEDUCATED AND POTENTIALLY IRRELEVANT AMERO-CENTRIC OPINIONS BELOW
I tend to agree with the other commenter, this guy should have registered as an individual without his VAT number and just use whatever receipt they gave him to claim the expense. I'm far too lazy to deep dive into French tax but a quick skim of [0] indicates that you can submit a "receipt" in addition to an invoice. Sure you can get audited but I would bet (and seriously, I'd love to take this bet at any reasonable set of odds, Author DM me) that no French tax auditor is going to be like "SACRE BLEU, clearly you're trying to deduct your super luxurious vacation to the programming language conference ILLEGALLY!" I'm sure 20 minute conversation would clarify any outstanding concerns they might have about this specific issue.
And I honestly find it kind of hard to fault the Conference organizers for this one. True, they clearly failed to account for this " Entreprise Individuelle" (we call it Sole Proprietorship in the states) case when defining the company/not company ticket scheme, but if you pushed me I'd categorize EI as a company too. It's sort of a non-company company, but they clearly think that people who are attending in direct relation to their business are willing to pay more.
tl;dr just ask them to remove your VAT ID and reissue the ticket.
[0]https://qonto.com/en/blog/business-creation/freelancer/all-a...
Re: Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
#8This is exactly the kind of person I wouldn't want coming to a conf. Turns a small mistake into a big drama inside his bubble of ppl who think he's famous. And by the end of his post he's making threats in the name of the rust community as if he speaks for it. Yuck
Re: Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
#9Much ado about nothing: you absolutely do not need a VAT number on an invoice. And there is zero chance an invoice for a Rust conference would be requalified as "non-business related expense" during a tax audit...
Source? Reference? From my experience as a sole proprietor in the EU, yes... you very much need invoices issued with your VAT number for any business expense, or else you get in big trouble. (Also many invoices in EU are e-invoices, which means the tax authorities get updated in real-time, so your tax account gets updated automatically, so you don't have to file taxes -- you just see a balance of what you owe and fro…
The policy does make sense, the vat was there on error for the personal ticket
Re: Begging EuroRust to acknowledge independent workers
#10Does Europe really need to have the VAT? Usually here (Canada) you give it if you want to tell the business selling you something not to charge you sale tax. If you dont, you just claim the sales taxes at the end or the fiscal year instead.