Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected
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#2> ‘Privacy. That's Apple,’ the slogan proclaims. New research from Aalto University begs to differ.
> The researchers studied eight apps: Safari, Siri, Family Sharing, iMessage, FaceTime, Location Services, Find My and Touch ID. They collected all publicly available privacy-related information on these apps...
> The fragility of the privacy protections surprised even the researchers.
Reaction: Either their "surprise" was purely theatrical (or journalistic gloss), or else Aalto U. needs to replace them with competent researchers. Just like a policeman who doesn't believe that anyone could really be a criminal, or a doctor who finds it unimaginable that autoimmune diseases could actually occur, or ...
Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected
#3> ‘Privacy. That's Apple,’ the slogan proclaims. New research from Aalto University begs to differ. > The researchers studied eight apps: Safari, Siri, Family Sharing, iMessage, FaceTime, Location Services, Find My and Touch ID. They collected all publicly available privacy-related information on these apps... > The fragility of the privacy protections surprised even the researchers. Reaction: Either their "surprise"…
That's overly harsh, and a disingenuous analogy to draw.
Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected
#4> ‘Privacy. That's Apple,’ the slogan proclaims. New research from Aalto University begs to differ. > The researchers studied eight apps: Safari, Siri, Family Sharing, iMessage, FaceTime, Location Services, Find My and Touch ID. They collected all publicly available privacy-related information on these apps... > The fragility of the privacy protections surprised even the researchers. Reaction: Either their "surprise"…
Probably more like they were expecting better privacy practices than what Apple provided. One can be very competent but still surprised at just how bad things can be.
Otherwise we would be discrediting a lot of climate researchers when they are surprised that things are progressing faster than expected.
Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected
#5> ‘Privacy. That's Apple,’ the slogan proclaims. New research from Aalto University begs to differ. > The researchers studied eight apps: Safari, Siri, Family Sharing, iMessage, FaceTime, Location Services, Find My and Touch ID. They collected all publicly available privacy-related information on these apps... > The fragility of the privacy protections surprised even the researchers. Reaction: Either their "surprise"…
From the news article I understood that this was an experimental setting, where participants were asked to perform actions in order to prevent data sharing with apple. From the news article I also interpreted that it is indeed "possible" (in the technical sense), but zero of the participants managed to get it right.
Being a software engineer / computer researcher / highly technical person (which puts them / us in a technical competent bubble), it might have been an actual surprise that zero participants managed to perform the task successfully. Add to that that they might have sourced participants from the student community in a technical university, and I don't see why their surprise is "theatrical"
Edit: As expected, quoting the original article: "The participants were recruited using the following methods: (1) posts on the university’s official LinkedIn page and (...)
Participants represented a wide variety of educational and professional backgrounds, including Computer Science and IT, Architecture, Business Administration, Art and Design, Industrial Engineering, Economics, Research and Development, and unemployed participants (...)"
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#6I’m confused by the diagram. A and B appear to be early in the process but looking more carefully they’re actually pointing to steps 11 and 12. Seems a little misleading at first glance.
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#7Is the whole point of all this data collection nonsense really just to serve me irrelevant ads I never click? What are they doing with all this worthless information?
I downloaded a shitty freemium mobile game once and now 80% of my Instagram ads have been ads for shitty mobile games for more than a year. Is this really the best the 500k+ a year ad magicians at Meta came up with? Is this what gives Meta its trillion market cap? Just like Amazon serving me ads for washing machines, right after I bought one. And Google Maps promoting shitty restaurants and services I don't want to go to. Is this the cake apple wants a share of?
I can't wrap my head around data collection.
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#9Apple should provide an option to opt-out of Siri "learn from app" for ALL applications.
At present, this must be done individually for every app, https://www.imore.com/how-stop-siri-learning-how-you-use-app.... When you later install new apps after setting up the device, you have to remember to go into Settings and opt-out again, for every app, forever.
How many people know that iOS devices will default to Siri reading plaintext for all apps, including E2EE messengers?
Re: Keeping your data from Apple is harder than expected
#10Apple should provide an option to opt-out of Siri "learn from app" for ALL applications. At present, this must be done individually for every app, https://www.imore.com/how-stop-siri-learning-how-you-use-app... . When you later install new apps after setting up the device, you have to remember to go into Settings and opt-out again, for every app, forever. How many people know that iOS devices will default to Siri rea…
You can just disable Siri if you're that concerned?
Edit: Turns out — you can't! See the reply below.