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The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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"It's also a challenge to start a new art project in this era of unethical AI art, pay to win social media, algorithms with cryptic rules that serve the interests of their platforms, search engines that only return commercial partnerships and AI pollution. But now I'm confident that I will find a way and bring interesting answers to the table." - the original post

"Safari can't open the page 'shortbread.ai' because Safari can't establish a secure connection to 'shortbread.ai'" - my browser

Re: The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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David Revoy's involvement in FOSS is almost a blessing. He has drawn this comic, Pepper and Carrot, using free software like Krita. But that's only the surface level of his contribution to FOSS.

He has pioneered a collaborative approach to comic translation in an industry where most publishers respond to volunteer translators with legal threats. (See [1] for the dominant sentiment among conventional comic publishers.)

Dozens of FOSS projects owe wonderful illustrations and mascots to David Revoy, including all of the initiatives by Framasoft (a French association focusing on software freedom). They are characters for communities to rally around, and can make these charitable initiatives and software projects feel more approachable to non-technical people. The open source app Mobilizon has cute cartoon foxes for instance[2], which you can even have as your online profile picture[3]!

Add to that a myriad of educational videos and blog posts about both art in general and doing art with open source software and you can perhaps see how passionate David Revoy is. Well, so concludes my little accolade to him on HN! I wish him the best of luck with his new comic.

[1]: https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/culture/2022/03/199_314538....

[2]: https://joinmobilizon.org/

[3]: https://www.peppercarrot.com/extras/html/2020_mobilizon-gene...

Re: The end of Pepper&Carrot and my next project

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"It's also a challenge to start a new art project in this era of unethical AI art, pay to win social media, algorithms with cryptic rules that serve the interests of their platforms, search engines that only return commercial partnerships and AI pollution. But now I'm confident that I will find a way and bring interesting answers to the table." - the original post "Safari can't open the page 'shortbread.ai' because S…

Y'all unfairly flagged my comment. It was a totally valid thread of conversation.

I didn't read to the end of the blog post to see the closing remarks about AI because there was no context about what Pepper and Carrot is/was.

You'd think someone who liberally licenses their work and encourages reuse would be happy that remixing is available to lots more people. I don't understand how you want your work to be reused, but only by people who spent decades learning pen and paper techniques. That's gatekeeping.

Regardless of what these people feel, Gen AI will make creation more accessible to lots of people. It's just as computers and smartphones have done. You don't have to be a mathematician with decades of experience using punch cards. Or a medieval priest with access to books before the printing press.

Edit: from their homepage,

> On Another hand, I don't have anything against AI tools themself, Generative Art or Neural Networks algorythm. If you know my work, I even offered more than once my art to train neural network for scientific paper and research. I just want the tools to be built on ethical datasets based on scrapping only Public Domain and CC-0 resources before using them (or the work of artists who consent).

Doesn't seem so anti-AI to me.

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