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Re: Too many labs run like this

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How does that email exchange go? I occasionally see something like that I'd like to get addressed (Substack is the big one, I wish they supported paid RSS) but I've always assumed that even if I send an email, no one will care.

Who did you contact? And how? And what was their response?

Re: Too many labs run like this

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How does that email exchange go? I occasionally see something like that I'd like to get addressed (Substack is the big one, I wish they supported paid RSS) but I've always assumed that even if I send an email, no one will care. Who did you contact? And how? And what was their response?

> I've always assumed that even if I send an email, no one will care.

I used to feel this way too -- why would such and such bigwig writer care about what I have to say? - and then I started sending the emails. More responses, and thoughtful ones too, than I ever imagined.

I suggest just trying it. Find a few company contacts on their website or trawl LinkedIn. As long as you're polite, what's the worst that could happen?

Re: Too many labs run like this

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How does that email exchange go? I occasionally see something like that I'd like to get addressed (Substack is the big one, I wish they supported paid RSS) but I've always assumed that even if I send an email, no one will care. Who did you contact? And how? And what was their response?

Below is how it started after using the member form and getting shunted to a rep. They literally didn't know that most RSS readers are actually applications run on your home computer. They thought Feedly was a "traditional" feed reader and not some weird corporate service. The ignorance was disheartening to say the least.

>I wanted to follow up on your inquiry regarding RSS readers being blocked on science.org. We allow most traditional RSS readers (like Feedly) but this one in particular (QuiteRSS) we do not support. It behaves differently than most readers by using a browser to scrape content similar to a bot. We encourage you to try another RSS feed reader.

But I kept it up, and most importantly, I emailed the author of the blog who's feed was being blocked by bad cloudflare config: Derek Lowe of "In the Pipeline". I'm sure that he also contacted science.org/AAAS and it was his input that kept them listening to me and trying to fix it.

After a handful more emails of me showing them how their config was broken and explaining what RSS was and that it is meant for "bots" (to them: everything not megacorp browsers) they passed it to the correct people who put in an exception to the blocking for the feed URLs.

I wish I would've asked them to unblock the HTML blog pages too. :\

Re: Too many labs run like this

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I think a lot of people in software development are familiar with the pattern described, of a person with power chasing the appearance of success without much regard to what's actually going on. In both cases I think we have 1) systems that often reward appearance; 2) power structures where one bad actor can override/silence objections; and 3) institutions that are very uninterested in the truth of how things went wrong.

Re: Too many labs run like this

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The institutional problems go deeper than this. Of the graduate students who had the courage to do the right thing, how many of them are going to find good jobs, even the excellent jobs their show of integrity deserves? Not many. They don't have actual work/publications to show, they'll be labelled potential troublemaker, backstabber, damaged goods - or they'll just omit it from their resume to avoid to be tainted by association.

When what they deserve is, on the contrary, to teach the level where they lead a lab.

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