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Broadcasting LoRa packets wihout a radio [video]

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I really liked the explanation of how he used harmonics to get to the frequency he desired.

Also, LoRa is really good when it comes to low power data transmission. To share a recent example, with just ~100mW of transmission power, they managed to fly an RC plane to a distance of 100km: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJ2UOrlXgM .(Their transmitter from the ground station was configured at a higher power, but the transmitter on the aircraft was transmitting telemetry back at 100mW throughout the distance)

Another related fun project is using raspberry pi gpio to work as an FM transmitter: https://github.com/markondej/fm_transmitter

Re: Broadcasting LoRa packets wihout a radio [video]

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I really liked the explanation of how he used harmonics to get to the frequency he desired. Also, LoRa is really good when it comes to low power data transmission. To share a recent example, with just ~100mW of transmission power, they managed to fly an RC plane to a distance of 100km: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJ2UOrlXgM .(Their transmitter from the ground station was configured at a higher power, but the tra…

I looked a bit into the LORA protocol. It does offer reception below the noise floor. LORA doesn't do anything to attempt to make other LORA transmissions seem like noise to a receiver that's attempting to lock to your transmission. This makes it possible for a transmission that's closer to the receiver to essentially jam a transmission that's far from it. I guess since LORA isn't used that much, it's not a problem these days. I think it's being used as part of Amazon's sidewalk network though.

Re: Broadcasting LoRa packets wihout a radio [video]

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I really liked the explanation of how he used harmonics to get to the frequency he desired. Also, LoRa is really good when it comes to low power data transmission. To share a recent example, with just ~100mW of transmission power, they managed to fly an RC plane to a distance of 100km: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJ2UOrlXgM .(Their transmitter from the ground station was configured at a higher power, but the tra…

Notably, Wez's flight was done with 2.4GHz LoRa (this was one of his main points, to address naysayers who claimed a 2.4GHz link could never achieve >100km) while Charles is using 900MHz - the same setup that achieved 100km (100mW with a lightly directional antenna on one end, ExpressLRS 50Hz RF mode) would have a theoretical range of >500km on 900MHz. LoRa at longer wavelengths can achieve some incredible feats - like microwatts or nanowatts of power to >1 mile as we saw here. :)

Re: Broadcasting LoRa packets wihout a radio [video]

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I really liked the explanation of how he used harmonics to get to the frequency he desired. Also, LoRa is really good when it comes to low power data transmission. To share a recent example, with just ~100mW of transmission power, they managed to fly an RC plane to a distance of 100km: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJ2UOrlXgM .(Their transmitter from the ground station was configured at a higher power, but the tra…

100km @ 100mW is not impressive when it's attached to a 30dBi antenna...

Re: Broadcasting LoRa packets wihout a radio [video]

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I really liked the explanation of how he used harmonics to get to the frequency he desired. Also, LoRa is really good when it comes to low power data transmission. To share a recent example, with just ~100mW of transmission power, they managed to fly an RC plane to a distance of 100km: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJ2UOrlXgM .(Their transmitter from the ground station was configured at a higher power, but the tra…

Doesn't LoRa have a pretty constrained duty cycle? I read the regs on LoRa (for the US at least) and found that you're required to limit transmission frequency to 1% (36s/h). I'm guessing you'd have to go well past that to operate an RC aircraft in the conventional manner. If you're just commanding waypoints I suppose you could be compliant.

Re: Broadcasting LoRa packets wihout a radio [video]

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I really liked the explanation of how he used harmonics to get to the frequency he desired. Also, LoRa is really good when it comes to low power data transmission. To share a recent example, with just ~100mW of transmission power, they managed to fly an RC plane to a distance of 100km: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJ2UOrlXgM .(Their transmitter from the ground station was configured at a higher power, but the tra…

Notably, Wez's flight was done with 2.4GHz LoRa (this was one of his main points, to address naysayers who claimed a 2.4GHz link could never achieve >100km) while Charles is using 900MHz - the same setup that achieved 100km (100mW with a lightly directional antenna on one end, ExpressLRS 50Hz RF mode) would have a theoretical range of >500km on 900MHz. LoRa at longer wavelengths can achieve some incredible feats - li…

Should we be looking for evidence of LoRA style transmissions for SETI? The energy required to get a loud conventional signal to go dozens or hundreds of light years is insane. But it seems like this kind of modulation might allow interstellar range with “only” gigawatt scale power levels.

It’d be an ideal way to create a signal with the potential to reach, say, a large fraction of the galaxy without requiring a Dyson swarm to power the transmitter.

Of course there are so many modulations this might be combinatorially impossible unless we can make some rational guesses about what a rational intelligence would use for interstellar communication if they wanted others to notice.

Re: Broadcasting LoRa packets wihout a radio [video]

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I really liked the explanation of how he used harmonics to get to the frequency he desired. Also, LoRa is really good when it comes to low power data transmission. To share a recent example, with just ~100mW of transmission power, they managed to fly an RC plane to a distance of 100km: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJ2UOrlXgM .(Their transmitter from the ground station was configured at a higher power, but the tra…

Notably, Wez's flight was done with 2.4GHz LoRa (this was one of his main points, to address naysayers who claimed a 2.4GHz link could never achieve >100km) while Charles is using 900MHz - the same setup that achieved 100km (100mW with a lightly directional antenna on one end, ExpressLRS 50Hz RF mode) would have a theoretical range of >500km on 900MHz. LoRa at longer wavelengths can achieve some incredible feats - li…

Were the naysayers saying 2.4GHz was impossible at all, or were they saying in a normal setting?

The distinction is quite important because I imagine anything bigger than the tiniest of villages will be swamped with interference..

Re: Broadcasting LoRa packets wihout a radio [video]

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I really liked the explanation of how he used harmonics to get to the frequency he desired. Also, LoRa is really good when it comes to low power data transmission. To share a recent example, with just ~100mW of transmission power, they managed to fly an RC plane to a distance of 100km: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJ2UOrlXgM .(Their transmitter from the ground station was configured at a higher power, but the tra…

100km @ 100mW is not impressive when it's attached to a 30dBi antenna...

Why not?
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