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Improving cursor rendering on Wayland

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Re: Improving cursor rendering on Wayland

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Post by rcxdude »

saurik wrote: post #3

The article essentially says--whether this is a good idea or not--that GTK is the one hold-out, which I wasn't really expecting as a punchline; why is GTK not implementing this?

It's a wholly expected punchline to anything wayland: by most accounts Gnome is one of the worst offenders in the death-by-comittee wasteland that is standardising protocols in wayland.

Re: Improving cursor rendering on Wayland

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Post by sprash »

Vilian wrote: post #2

xorg and it's problems is so funny

It's a Wayland problem if it is really problem at all though. The author complains that XCursor themes take too much space on disk (They will live uncompressed in VRAM anyways). Considering we are talking about Megabytes in the age of Terabytes HDDs, as long as you don't want to install thousands of XCursor themes on the same machine this is really a non-issue.

Re: Improving cursor rendering on Wayland

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Post by jchw »

rcxdude wrote: post #4
saurik wrote: post #3

The article essentially says--whether this is a good idea or not--that GTK is the one hold-out, which I wasn't really expecting as a punchline; why is GTK not implementing this?

It's a wholly expected punchline to anything wayland: by most accounts Gnome is one of the worst offenders in the death-by-comittee wasteland that is standardising protocols in wayland.

As far as I can tell, nobody has filed an issue on Gitlab for wp-cursor-shape, nor posted an MR.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests?search=w...

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/?search=wp-curso...

Nothing on Mutter either:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/?search=wp-cu...

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests?searc...

It looks like the old GTK mailing lists were moved to Discourse at: https://discourse.gnome.org - so I tried searching wp-cursor-shape:

https://discourse.gnome.org/search?expanded=true&q=wp-cursor...

Maybe it can be found under other terms of course, but all I'm saying is, before picking up the pitchforks, maybe it'd be worth asking if they'd just accept an MR. Yes, I know many (myself included) are not thrilled with GNOME's approach to Wayland, but it's not going to be any more productive to just assume bad faith, at some point you just gotta push forward.

Re: Improving cursor rendering on Wayland

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Post by mouse_ »

"Well lol just draw a png haha

Well, no, it's not that simple.

Rasters are annoying. Raster means an image is stored with pixels, for example a png, or an mp4. The problem with rasters is that when you resize them, the computer has to take a wild guess at what it should look like."

The problem with any display this software is going to run on is that it is also made with pixels. GTK foundation tried this approach for years, putting all their eggs into this basket, and recently having a reckoning and admitting this approach has not been working. Pixels are here to stay.

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