Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: 2023 Progress on Smooth Scrolling
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#2That logo is just wrong.
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#3I welcome any and all improvements to touchpads on Linux and Windows systems. Switching from my personal MacBook to my work ThinkPad is like traveling back in time in terms of usability.
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#4Apple has been perfecting its trackpad software since 1994, and it’s been getting better ever since. By contrast Apple keyboards have gotten worse since 1995 when it discontinued the Apple Extended Keyboard II. We don’t talk about Apple’s mice.
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#5Related. Others?
Linux Touchpad like MacBook Update: 2022 progress and new poll - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34300973 - Jan 2023 (59 comments)
Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: Touchpad Gestures Now Shipping - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29555822 - Dec 2021 (419 comments)
Linux Touchpad like MacBook: Touchpad gestures land to Qt, Gimp and X server - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27414160 - June 2021 (3 comments)
Linux touchpad like a Mac update: Firefox gesture support live in nightly - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26102894 - Feb 2021 (16 comments)
Q3 Linux touchpad update: Multitouch gesture test packages now ready - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24700537 - Oct 2020 (136 comments)
Linux Touchpad Like a MacBook update: progress on multitouch - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23615218 - June 2020 (127 comments)
Linux touchpad: preliminary project funding, survey results - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23235609 - May 2020 (169 comments)
Linux touchpad like a MacBook Pro, May 2020 update - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23080435 - May 2020 (324 comments)
Linux touchpad like a MacBook: April 2020 update - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23039515 - May 2020 (155 comments)
Linux touchpad like a Macbook: progress and a call for help - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19485178 - March 2019 (212 comments)
Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17547817 - July 2018 (336 comments)
Linux touchpad like a Macbook: goal worth pursuing? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16843720 - April 2018 (1 comment)
Re: Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: 2023 Progress on Smooth Scrolling
#6Why does this seem like such a hard problem to solve for everyone that isn’t Apple, when Apple seemingly solved the Trackpad over a decade ago?
Is this it? An unknown ROI?
>the highly uncertain ROI for trying to align touchpad acceleration has prevented us from proposing a system change to the default Linux settings.
I can only speak for myself, but I gave up using trackpads on anything that isn’t a MacBook many years ago. Very occasionally I’ll try them and have always been disappointed. This prevents me from buying any laptop that isn’t a Mac and prevents me from running any OS that isn’t macOS on a laptop. I can’t be the only person who prioritizes the quality and feel of input devices when choosing a system. If this can make or break sales and adoption, it seems like the ROI would be pretty good. Even if we are just talking about Java app, if I’m using an obviously Java app that feels like a clunky Java app, I’ll usually find an alternative app that doesn’t feel horrible to use.
I’m glad progress is being made, but I struggle to understand why it’s still a problem at all when it’s been so good for so long with Apple. They even sell Bluetooth trackpads for desktops it’s so good.
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#7Apple has been perfecting its trackpad software since 1994, and it’s been getting better ever since. By contrast Apple keyboards have gotten worse since 1995 when it discontinued the Apple Extended Keyboard II. We don’t talk about Apple’s mice.
Eh, the multitouch magic mouse is pretty intuitive when you get used to it. Depending on what you do, it could be an excellent daily driver, but it does tend to have some limitations that can make it a non-starter...
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#8Apple has been perfecting its trackpad software since 1994, and it’s been getting better ever since. By contrast Apple keyboards have gotten worse since 1995 when it discontinued the Apple Extended Keyboard II. We don’t talk about Apple’s mice.
It's not just the software. I have Ubuntu on a 2017 MBP and the touch pad experience is so much better than linux on anything else.
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#9What exactly is smooth scrolling? Like you press the down arrow, and the scroll is animated instead of instantly snapping down by 50 pixels?
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#10I remember this project starting. Not one single thing has changed that affects me as a result and I use Linux everywhere, daily. As far as I can tell it's a lot of small, niche work, that is almost completely immaterial to average users.
Meanwhile there's no stop scroll events across the ecosystem. The single biggest win that Linux touchpad needs is stop scroll events.
I'll bite my tongue on passing more judgement on how this effort has been portrayed over the past few years.