EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy mode'
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#2The difference between now and then is that you're reading this on a screen instead of on paper. That, and it's gonna be different factions fighting. But the ramp-up was in the news for several years then, too. I never thought I'd live to see this, I thought this only happened in history books.
Re: EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy mode'
#3The difference between now and then is that you're reading this on a screen instead of on paper. That, and it's gonna be different factions fighting. But the ramp-up was in the news for several years then, too. I never thought I'd live to see this, I thought this only happened in history books.
I thought we were better. But it seems to me like people has been swapped out. I dunno if I am psychotic or "everyone" else is. But then again, stuff like this have a higher risk of happening with bad and impopular leaders I guess.
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#4There was an incredibly stubborn post-Cold War "end of history" complacency in Europe that really should have ended after the annexation of Crimea in 2014. Instead it lasted until the full invasion in 2022.
What's been starkly revealed since is that Europe is woefully unprepared to respond to any kind of aggression, and aside from France's nuclear weapons, wholly reliant on America. At some point you have to get serious and live in the real world where threats still exist.
Re: EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy mode'
#5There was an incredibly stubborn post-Cold War "end of history" complacency in Europe that really should have ended after the annexation of Crimea in 2014. Instead it lasted until the full invasion in 2022. What's been starkly revealed since is that Europe is woefully unprepared to respond to any kind of aggression, and aside from France's nuclear weapons, wholly reliant on America. At some point you have to get seri…
Sure. But the fundamental problem seem to be for the political gaist to be "defence friendly" while also not war mongering. The same few collegues I have that don't trust the politicians, the gov, collective endouvers etc with anything seem hell bent to project "we" want to die for them. It is beyond insane. If people want to lie in a trench led by Ursula ... well. Have fun.
Re: EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy mode'
#6There was an incredibly stubborn post-Cold War "end of history" complacency in Europe that really should have ended after the annexation of Crimea in 2014. Instead it lasted until the full invasion in 2022. What's been starkly revealed since is that Europe is woefully unprepared to respond to any kind of aggression, and aside from France's nuclear weapons, wholly reliant on America. At some point you have to get seri…
Actually, it should have ended even earlier, after Russian aggression on Georgia in 2008.
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#7Too late to buy EU defence stocks, too late to buy real estate, too late to simply stop getting intimate with Russia (are Germans still smirking?), with current economy nobody is getting a new job either. What have you done, Europe.
Re: EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy mode'
#8The difference between now and then is that you're reading this on a screen instead of on paper. That, and it's gonna be different factions fighting. But the ramp-up was in the news for several years then, too. I never thought I'd live to see this, I thought this only happened in history books.
> I thought this only happened in history books.
Just like western EU governments apparently. It turns out governing a country isn't just about balancing an excel spreadsheet of incomes and spendings, which seems to be the only thing our elites have bee trained for in the last 40 years
Re: EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy mode'
#9There was an incredibly stubborn post-Cold War "end of history" complacency in Europe that really should have ended after the annexation of Crimea in 2014. Instead it lasted until the full invasion in 2022. What's been starkly revealed since is that Europe is woefully unprepared to respond to any kind of aggression, and aside from France's nuclear weapons, wholly reliant on America. At some point you have to get seri…
Sure. But the fundamental problem seem to be for the political gaist to be "defence friendly" while also not war mongering. The same few collegues I have that don't trust the politicians, the gov, collective endouvers etc with anything seem hell bent to project "we" want to die for them. It is beyond insane. If people want to lie in a trench led by Ursula ... well. Have fun.
Being "defence friendly" means also cultivating the mentality that lying in the trenches for your country/culture/values might be necessary.
Forget arms industry or military budget as a percent of GDP. The main problem is that Europe lacks the fighting spirit (with some exceptions like Poland). Countries like Germany will fold / capitulate to any demands if they suffer thousands of casualties.
Re: EU aims to shift European arms industry to 'war economy mode'
#10Too late to buy EU defence stocks, too late to buy real estate, too late to simply stop getting intimate with Russia (are Germans still smirking?), with current economy nobody is getting a new job either. What have you done, Europe.
> What have you done, Europe
Making crass jokes about school shootings, alienating regional powers (Israel, Turkey, Australia, most of the Sahel), and ignoring the first conventional war on the continent this century.