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Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Is there any good reason for anyone to be installing windows anymore other than locked-in enterprise IT setups? Gaming was the big holdout and even that doesn't feel too relevant these days

Yes. Frankly, there's still a lot of software that is either only available on Windows or only works well on Windows. Plus, for all its criticisms, Windows is very good at "just working" out of the box without having to fiddle with it.

For 99% of of people out there, that's preferable to all the headaches you can get under Linux.

And for gaming, yes, it's still essentially the only real option. Out of the library of games I own maybe 10% work on Linux out of the box, and maybe 1/3 with WINE and a lot of work.

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Is there any good reason for anyone to be installing windows anymore other than locked-in enterprise IT setups? Gaming was the big holdout and even that doesn't feel too relevant these days

There is not a single good Linux DE.

So the other option is macOS. Good hardware but the os is annoying in some parts.

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Is there any good reason for anyone to be installing windows anymore other than locked-in enterprise IT setups? Gaming was the big holdout and even that doesn't feel too relevant these days

Yes. Frankly, there's still a lot of software that is either only available on Windows or only works well on Windows. Plus, for all its criticisms, Windows is very good at "just working" out of the box without having to fiddle with it. For 99% of of people out there, that's preferable to all the headaches you can get under Linux. And for gaming, yes, it's still essentially the only real option. Out of the library of…

IME just enabling experimental proton support in Steam is enough to run 75-85% of games I'm interested in.

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Is there any good reason for anyone to be installing windows anymore other than locked-in enterprise IT setups? Gaming was the big holdout and even that doesn't feel too relevant these days

Yes. Frankly, there's still a lot of software that is either only available on Windows or only works well on Windows. Plus, for all its criticisms, Windows is very good at "just working" out of the box without having to fiddle with it. For 99% of of people out there, that's preferable to all the headaches you can get under Linux. And for gaming, yes, it's still essentially the only real option. Out of the library of…

Thats weird, because pretty much any game I have wanted to play on Steam (with the exception of a couple VR titles) have run flawlessly on my Linux machine. Proton works for the majority of games, I have found.

I know games with anti cheat often don’t run, but those are the exception not the rule.

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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I use OOShutUp and it's a huge time saver. Select All, or go with their recommendations and that's it. Always surprised at how many people don't know about it.

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

> O&O ShutUp10++: Free antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

> O&O ShutUp10++ is entirely free and does not have to be installed – it can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Is there any good reason for anyone to be installing windows anymore other than locked-in enterprise IT setups? Gaming was the big holdout and even that doesn't feel too relevant these days

Yes. Frankly, there's still a lot of software that is either only available on Windows or only works well on Windows. Plus, for all its criticisms, Windows is very good at "just working" out of the box without having to fiddle with it. For 99% of of people out there, that's preferable to all the headaches you can get under Linux. And for gaming, yes, it's still essentially the only real option. Out of the library of…

Regarding gaming, the only real issues these days are exactly anti-cheat and VR. Most other games work perfectly fine.

Re: Windows-as-a-nuisance: How I clean up a "clean install" of Windows 11 and Edge

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Is there any good reason for anyone to be installing windows anymore other than locked-in enterprise IT setups? Gaming was the big holdout and even that doesn't feel too relevant these days

Linux is a chore and I'm not buying a Mac.
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