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The case against caffeine

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Re: The case against caffeine

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If you're going to drink decaf, be sure to drink decaf prepared via the Swiss water method. It has the least additives, healthiest option and tastes pretty good.

Re: The case against caffeine

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At least personally, I've found that starting to drink coffee has had a pretty dramatic positive impact on my depression.

I wonder if the difference in experience could come down to the specific circumstances and nature of the issues that someone faces?

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High amounts shrink the brain, increase dementia risk. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1028415X.2021.19... And very few people drink 1-2 cups. The travel mugs and typical coffee place cups are close to this danger range.

> After full covariate adjustment, consumption of >6 cups/day was associated with 53% higher odds of dementia compared to consumption of 1–2 cups/day

So what they're saying is too much of a (good? fine? reasonable?) thing can be a bad thing? Not sure this supports a case against caffeine.

You should look up what happens if someone consumes too much salt!

Re: The case against caffeine

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> At this point, many of you might be thinking: Zan, you sneaky weasel. Haven't you just cherry-picked your redditors and scientific publications to fit your narrative?

Adressing it is good, but ultimately it does not really act as a rebuttal, this is a biased collection of anecdotes from a subreddit of people drinking decaf.

That being said, if you do feel like your anxiety is always high and that you have a trouble sleeping, it's probably worth stopping and assessing, a bit like how people with IBS will just periodically remove things from their diet to see its impact.

Re: The case against caffeine

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A lot of dietary science is shaky, and I think we should accept that different people respond to various psychoactive substances differently. I don't have any reason to question the author's conclusions, nor doubt that others might have the same experience - even if it doesn't quite jibe with mine (I'm in this camp: https://twitter.com/danielcrosby/status/1534584565431296001).

What doesn't sit with me is that the article makes a lot of hyperbolic claims ("Caffeine is literally killing your dreams", etc) and says a lot of sciencey-sounding stuff, but then wraps it up with "no, you can't cricitize that":

> Q: Don't you care? Don't you think it's misleading?

> A: Nah. I'm not writing a philosophical treatise here. I'm not writing a lawsuit to take all coffee lovers to court. And I'm definitely not writing a scientific review.

I mean, OK, it's your blog - but you're trying to have it both ways. If you wanted to write about your subjective experience, fine. But you're making it seem as if you're presenting settled science.

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