Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by chrnola » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 12:42 AM UTC

Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
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Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by ricardobeat » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 2:19 AM UTC

This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)…

MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by plussed_reader » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 2:30 AM UTC

ricardobeat wrote: post #2

This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.

I think this is the 'https' flavor of the airplay handshake and it doesn't play well with the federated setup I use with work. Sidecar won't work with federated flavor of my orgs appleID. It could be policy, but I'm pretty sure it should work.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by davisp » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 2:32 AM UTC

Who are these companies that either require a non-personal Apple Id or forbid a personal Apple Id? I’ve worked for startups and multinationals and never had an issue with my work machine allowing a personal Apple Id.

Obviously I have to be personally ok with allowing work possible access to my Apple Id, but for me it’s an acceptable trade off given that they have access to everything I say on Slack, and if we’re being honest, that’s the where the “HR needs a word” is gonna come from.

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Post by threeseed » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 2:37 AM UTC

Apple had to lock down iOS in 17.4 because enough people were being tricked into entering their passcode by a thief who in turn would steal the device, access their passwords and drain their bank accounts.

So not sure that allowing pairing between different accounts and relying on a passcode for security is going to be that secure.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by Dalewyn » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 2:38 AM UTC

davisp wrote: post #4

Who are these companies that either require a non-personal Apple Id or forbid a personal Apple Id? I’ve worked for startups and multinationals and never had an issue with my work machine allowing a personal Apple Id. Obviously I have to be personally ok with allowing work possible access to my Apple Id, but for me it’s an acceptable trade off given that they have access to everything I say on Slack, and if we’re bein…

Never ever ever mix personal and professional anything, for that way lies hell and tragedy.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by chrnola » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 2:38 AM UTC

ricardobeat wrote: post #2

This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.

> I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed

I thought so too. The Apple retail employee that gave me the demo of the Vision Pro confirmed this. He said the manager at his store had a Vision Pro and wanted to use it with his Apple-issued Mac, which was managed via MDM.

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Post by LeoPanthera » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 2:40 AM UTC

This is a very very long rant against a decision that seems entirely sensible to me. I specifically would not want any corporate-issued hardware happily chatting away with my personally-owned hardware, and I would encourage others to similarly keep their home and work life separate. If having an iPad (or a Vision Pro) would be useful for work, then their employer should issue one.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by w-ll » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 2:41 AM UTC

ricardobeat wrote: post #2

This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.

The real crime is Macbooks still ship with a 1080p camera when their ungodly huge phones ship with 48MP

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by chrnola » Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 2:43 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #5

Apple had to lock down iOS in 17.4 because enough people were being tricked into entering their passcode by a thief who in turn would steal the device, access their passwords and drain their bank accounts. So not sure that allowing pairing between different accounts and relying on a passcode for security is going to be that secure.

Consider the setup process for the Apple TV. The TV shows a unique one-time-use QR code-like pattern that you can scan with the camera of an iOS device. Surely something like this would be sufficient for pairing a Vision Pro with a Mac.

Also the security implications of encouraging people to add their personal Apple ID to devices they don’t own are, IMO, worse.