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Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Another reminder that most food produced by industrial processes is poisoning us. News of this chemical’s prevalence may be news, but the general story is not.

Yet nothing has changed, nor should anyone expect otherwise. Big Ag achieved regulatory capture and can afford to delay indefinitely (if not outright stop) any meaningful change from happening.

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Well this is making me think about switching to organic only grains. Feels like a bit of a regulatory failure.

The next hundred years is probably going to be grappling with how many toxic chemicals we allowed at 'safe' levels because it was inconvenient to industry to ban them the same way we're floored by the casual irradiation of the early 20th century.

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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post #5

Well this is making me think about switching to organic only grains. Feels like a bit of a regulatory failure.

The next hundred years is probably going to be grappling with how many toxic chemicals we allowed at 'safe' levels because it was inconvenient to industry to ban them the same way we're floored by the casual irradiation of the early 20th century.

Think of the shareholder value though. /s

People are going to scream about the cost of remediating all of this (hundreds of billions, if not trillions), but it was just shareholders through limited liability corporations stealing from taxpayers (who will end up with the remediation bill through taxes) by way of the market and government, with enormous aggregate harm a second order effect. So long, and thanks for all the poison.

> The estimated cost to the federal government of cleaning up environmental contamination, referred to as environmental liabilities, was $613 billion in fiscal year 2021. This is an increase from $465 billion in fiscal year 2017.

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-22-104744

https://www.pca.state.mn.us/news-and-stories/groundbreaking-... ("Groundbreaking study shows unaffordable costs of PFAS cleanup from wastewater")

https://gispub.epa.gov/oeca/WOS/ ("Superfund Settlements and Work Orders Mapper")

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Well this is making me think about switching to organic only grains. Feels like a bit of a regulatory failure.

Organic may not be much better, as many of the chemicals approved for organic crops are even worse. So, yes, regulation has failed. Good luck holding anyone accountable.

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Having little personal knowledge in this area of food growth, harvest and production, then of course any pre-market execution practices for shelf lives or processing; what are the ill effects of exposure specifically relating to birth/fetal deficiencies?

Perhaps I'm a bad looker-up but I can't find the relative answer (seemingly) in various animal studies linked, outside of noting reproductive issues. Thanks in advance!

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Well this is making me think about switching to organic only grains. Feels like a bit of a regulatory failure.

Neat, you get to have the fun organic chemicals inside you, the ones that are probably worse because they are "organic"
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