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#2I like using Rich Harris's tools because he cares about actually getting stuff done and he's allergic to bullshit
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#3I like using Rich Harris's tools because he cares about actually getting stuff done and he's allergic to bullshit
I wasn't ever very tempted by React when it started getting hot because I had started using Rich's component library Ractive and it was so obviously better than React
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#4I like using Rich Harris's tools because he cares about actually getting stuff done and he's allergic to bullshit
I wasn't ever very tempted by React when it started getting hot because I had started using Rich's component library Ractive and it was so obviously better than React
Ractive was great, like Knockout++
Svelte was then like Ractive++ as well
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#5> "we explicitly aim to be the framework with the best vibes."
I quite love this.
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#6> The web matters
nuff said
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#7Now I know why I dislike Svelte so much, I don't believe in its principles. Which is perfectly fine, a framework can't please everyone.
HTML is not the mother language - It's actually pretty terrible for describing dynamic user interfaces. This is why JS solutions are so appealing. If HTML is so magical why do they need a fancy template language?
Magical, not magic - I really don't want it to feel magical either. I like explicit behavior and I think that is my problem with the whole wrap everything in observables approach. It's too magical.
No one cares - The countless blogs, posts, and communication around frameworks implies that yes, developers do indeed care. Details are important. You can't waive away concepts like memoization because they need to be used in the right context. There's no one size fits all solution to caching.
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#8> "we explicitly aim to be the framework with the best vibes." I quite love this.
On its own it sounds like hand-wavy marketing bs to me...
Then again, svelte has a great developer experience, so I would say he's delivering on this.
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#10> We want Svelte to feel magical — we want you to feel like a wizard when you're writing Svelte code... So when we design things we need to think about the people who haven't read the docs in a while, if at all, and don't care about things like that. This means that things need to be intuitive, that we shouldn't need to worry about manual optimisations like memoisation, that we should have as few APIs as possible, and that things need to be discoverable
Amen. After being forced into working on a large Vue project as a React dev who had sworn it off, I've slowly come around to falling in love with it. Once you get over the "black magic" of it all, the productivity is insane. For people who just need to get things done, and couldn't care less about millisecond level rendering benchmarks, I would easily suggest it over React at this point.