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Ask HN: I am the software guy and marketing is hell for me

#1
I am a software engineer with experience in multiple startups, both as a salaried employee and as a co-founder.

In the software/startups that I develop on my own, I am very lacking in marketing and lead hunting. My projects usually have a good growth potential, but I fail in the non-technical parts.

Of course, I have tried to get another co-founder to work on the non-technical side before, but I don't know how to find a good non-technical co-founder.

What would you suggest?

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#2
I'm a problem solver myself, but I, as well, am the worst person to market myself, let alone a product of mine or my skills.

My suggestion would be, find the best marketing person you can find and let it sell things for you.

If things go well, you can make him / her your "CFO".

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#6

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Why do you say this?

I assume they were making a remark that insinuated that people proficient in non-technical departments would be attracted to the other cofounder and work at your startup as a result of that attraction. Sorry if I misinterpreted the comment.

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#7
I'd suggest to spend 50% of your time on base marketing - provide meaningful content to your target audience on the web and other channels if they make sense, e.g. LinkedIn for B2B and you will slowly start to get recognized. After that it should get easier. Avoid scammy tactics and spam.

If you really think you need a good non-tech co-founder it should be someone you have worked with under pressure and they have proven that they can deliver. Avoid people that produce strategies.

You should list some things you have built so that someone with marketing/sales experience could find it interesting and get in touch later. It's part of what I called "base" marketing and it's a long game, no shortcuts.

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#8
Sorry, there is no such thing as "I will code and someone else will sell" when it is just you or even a couple of you. You have to sell/market as well. You know your product and market the best. At least you have to believe that.

There is no magic wand. You know who you are building this product for (hopefully). Find 10-15 of those people manually. Reach out using email/linkedin etc. Tell them what you are working on and if they will be interest in testing it.

Start creating content around the product. A blog post no matter how crappy you think it is.

Do all of that yourself first and may be you will attract a co-founder who knows this better than you but unless you are well connected or with a previous track record, no one will join you for sweat equity. You are in this all by yourself, at least in the early days.

Source: a Technical founder who does a lot of sales/marketing. I have to.

Re: Ask HN: I am the software guy and marketing is hell for me

#9
Suggestion: Rethink the "co-founder" concept.

This implies equity of some sort in your company. And I doubt you are really prepared to deal with all that this implies unless you know the "co-founder" really, really well --- and even then it can be dicey.

Instead, look and advertise for people seeking "business opportunities". Start by offering a $0 startup to others looking to start their own business built around a product they will source from you.

These other individuals/"partners" will be responsible for setting up their own company, doing their own marketing and billing and first line support.

Establish a clean line of separation by charging these partners a fixed "wholesale" rate and providing them with an "opportunity" to make money by re-selling/marketing your product. They will have total control over their own destiny as you will have over yours. The more they sell, the more they make --- and the more you will make.

Once you have "successful" partners, you can leverage that "success" to actually start charging others a significant upfront fee to become part of this successful enterprise.

The key to making money is offering others the opportunity to do the same.

Re: Ask HN: I am the software guy and marketing is hell for me

#10

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Why do you say this?

Go look at your average tiktok, where a woman is just standing around.

https://www.tiktok.com/@thefitnessmermaid13/video/7120057880...

33.6k likes, 418k views.

So yes, if you're looking to market _anything_ find a woman or a model, and put her in front of your product.

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