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My Grandpa Was a Nazi

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Re: My Grandpa Was a Nazi

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"anti-fascists" have many of the same characteristics as Nazis. Authoritarian in nature and willing to use violence to suppress the opinions of people they dislike. It's not surprising that the grandson of an actual Nazi has become one.

update: The truth hurts. You can't support violence and not get called out for it.

Re: My Grandpa Was a Nazi

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> Calling Alternative for Germany "Nazis" is nonsense. > > Countries have a right to set their own immigration policies, and many Europeans aren't happy with their respective countries' policies. So, they're voting for change, as is their right.

There are a lot of hyperbolic uses of the term, but the AfD is more and more openly fascist. Currently circulating in the media is a conference between AfD politicians and far right activists about how millions of people including germans with migrant parents could be deported to africa. That's not some kind of immigration policy, that's one more part of their plans for "racial purity".

Re: My Grandpa Was a Nazi

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As someone old enough to have experienced the outcome of dictorship in Europe during the mid 1970's, those voters have no clue what they are getting into.

One would expect that with enough information about Salazar, Franco, DDR, Gaulle, Greek junta,... people would have learned, but no, they want those guys back.

Re: My Grandpa Was a Nazi

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The AfD had a large secret meeting with right extremists discussing "re-migration" policy this last November, and many members have close ties to Neo-Nazis.

By this they mean expulsion of all people -including citizens- who don't "look German" and people who support them. If this is not fascist, I don't know what is.

Re: My Grandpa Was a Nazi

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post #2

"anti-fascists" have many of the same characteristics as Nazis. Authoritarian in nature and willing to use violence to suppress the opinions of people they dislike. It's not surprising that the grandson of an actual Nazi has become one. update: The truth hurts. You can't support violence and not get called out for it.

Agree. Saw recently that ANTIFA was trying to protest a comedian's appearance at a venue in Portland and some members were threatening violence if they appeared. That's certainly pro-censorship and in the vein of not allowing people who disagree with you to have the same rights as you, but I don't know if it fits the textbook definition of fascism.

Re: My Grandpa Was a Nazi

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post #2

"anti-fascists" have many of the same characteristics as Nazis. Authoritarian in nature and willing to use violence to suppress the opinions of people they dislike. It's not surprising that the grandson of an actual Nazi has become one. update: The truth hurts. You can't support violence and not get called out for it.

The only way you can get away with this equivocation is by using vague phrases like "willing to use violence to suppress the opinions of people they dislike" to hide the differences, and assuming that all uses of violence are morally equivalent. Back here in reality, the crucial difference between fascists and anti-fascists is that fascists seek to suppress the rights (not just speech) of races they consider inferior and people they consider degenerate and a drag on society who have done nothing wrong and not instigated anything, through violence, whereas anti-fascists retaliate against people who explicitly hold bigoted views because of the beliefs espoused by them. Possibly using violence in retaliation to those who hold a deeply dangerous and bigoted ideology is very different then holding a deeply dangerous and bigoted ideology and targeting people just based on that bigotry.
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