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Re: Ask HN: Which CEO should get laid off?

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Post by PaulHoule »

Sundar. You might not like Zuck's vision but he has a vision. Sundar has a vision too which is that he can freeze things just like it is forever but that's really a choice to die.

Conservatism is a better fit for Microsoft because their users have "Who moved my cheese?" as a motto. Microsoft also mostly gets paid by its users through some circuitous path, Google's ad based model has dangerous conflicts of interests built into it quite fundamentally.

I lately read this Wikipedia article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

and really appreciated its viewpoint but I am wondering if in the long term it is going to be another scenario like

https://www.amazon.com/Innovators-Dilemma-Revolutionary-Chan...

that is, so far we haven't seen platforms that have decayed suffering from it but there has to be some limit at which customers are so frustrated that the two sided market is broken and my guess is that when that happens a company like Google will go from "bad to nonexistent" in "internet time".

Re: Ask HN: Which CEO should get laid off?

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Post by yellow_lead »

I think Elon has the most cause to be laid off. Not only has he driven customers away by tarnishing his personal brand, but he has recently threatened the board of Tesla that he will "build products outside of Tesla" unless he gets more voting control. Well, he's already building products outside of Tesla considering SpaceX, Twitter/X, Boring Company, Neuralink, etc. As an investor, I'd rather get a full-time CEO than a part-time one who threatens the board over not having enough voting control.

Re: Ask HN: Which CEO should get laid off?

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

PaulHoule wrote: post #4

Sundar. You might not like Zuck's vision but he has a vision . Sundar has a vision too which is that he can freeze things just like it is forever but that's really a choice to die. Conservatism is a better fit for Microsoft because their users have "Who moved my cheese?" as a motto. Microsoft also mostly gets paid by its users through some circuitous path, Google's ad based model has dangerous conflicts of interests…

>Conservatism is a better fit for Microsoft because their users have "Who moved my cheese?" as a motto.

No way. Had they been conservative they would have remained as the "Windows and Office company" and died off 10 years ago as an IBM-also-has-been.

The fact they moved into consoles, cloud, linux, Github, LinkedIn, cross platform subscription based services like Office365, entertainment IP and AI, is what kept them alive and relevant.

Staying conservative from this point on is also not a good idea. If they can push ChatGPT and Copilot further to everyone an turn it profitable it would be another major win.

Conservatism is a better fit for someone like SAP.

Re: Ask HN: Which CEO should get laid off?

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Post by 0x002A »

Any company CEO who lays off people openly or covertly because they hire too many people in the recent years. If the management decided to hire too many people they are the ones who are responsible for bad decision or bad management. Not the people who are hired by the decisions.

Re: Ask HN: Which CEO should get laid off?

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Post by randomdata »

me_me_me wrote: post #5
dotcoma wrote: post #2

In the case of Elon, please specify if as CEO of Tesla, SpaceX or X.

if you are ceo of x number of companies you are a proof CEOs does very little in reality.

The work is maintaining trust from the board such that they continue to give you the keys to the kingdom. It may not be time consuming work, but still work most people are unable to do.
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