Let's make the indie web easier
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Let's make the indie web easier
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#2For the kind of person who finds terminal commands hard, having a cornucopia of different options to choose from is making things harder than "just install Wordpress", not easier. What's this trying to achieve?
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#3> Why not build static website generators that people can just unzip, upload to the shared hosting they’ve just paid for, and start using via a browser?
What is currently the best option / WordPress alternative to start an indie site in this way without using the console?
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#4> Why not build static website generators that people can just unzip, upload to the shared hosting they’ve just paid for, and start using via a browser? What is currently the best option / WordPress alternative to start an indie site in this way without using the console?
Tiddlywiki is a lot (exactly?) like this.
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#5For the kind of person who finds terminal commands hard, having a cornucopia of different options to choose from is making things harder than "just install Wordpress", not easier. What's this trying to achieve?
I think it should be as easy as using Notion or something similar.
My old blog was on jekyll but publishing pages was such a hassle I stopped bothering writing anything.
Now I just put a small system together that uses Notion as backend.
I'm opening it up to more people but hesitant to make it a full "service" since whoever uses it is stuck on SaaS pricing... but I could open source it, but then other people would have to deploy it somewhere.
So either it's "learn some command line / programming / deployment skills" or "pay a monthly fee" sadly.
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#6> We need more self-hosted platforms for personal publishing that aren’t Wordpress.
Do we really? Of course it's OK to have lots of platforms out there (and the author mentions several), but do we need them for the indie web to grow?
The word need is used so many times in this article, but frankly signing up at Wordpress.com or WP Engine is about as easy as it gets and within minutes you have your own site, access to a huge community and the functionality of thousands of plugins, forever guaranteed that if the host becomes a dick you can just export everything and switch to someone else, etc. The author is talking about having stuff that's easy to install but you don't have to install anything. Self-install and self-host are frankly a non-starter if you want easy, that's not just a technical/UX problem, it's support/maintenance/etc that takes raw hours. WP has been so successful precisely because it's easy for a total novice to get up and running, and there are dozens of hosts who do the plumbing work for you. I'd argue this is a model for something like Mastodon to aspire to.
Re: Let's make the indie web easier
#7> Why not build static website generators that people can just unzip, upload to the shared hosting they’ve just paid for, and start using via a browser? What is currently the best option / WordPress alternative to start an indie site in this way without using the console?
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#8Try https://getpublii.com/
Host on Netlify for free. Zero server headaches.
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#9> Why not build static website generators that people can just unzip, upload to the shared hosting they’ve just paid for, and start using via a browser? What is currently the best option / WordPress alternative to start an indie site in this way without using the console?
We could bundle Jekyll in an .exe file using ocran and maybe even add a GUI... I'm willing to make that, but would people use it?
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#10Oh the humanity not the terminal!!!
I don't know where to begin with this. "here's a challenge for you developers" who exactly are they expecting to find this an interesting task that is worth their time to work on?
If you want it and/or think it should exist, then I'm not stopping you from making it. If you think I should make it, surprisingly, I do not.
Buy squarespace if you don't want to know anything.
You will only have the same problem tomorrow at some other level. Then it will be "you only think clicking on a tar file and figuring out where to unpack it (or where it was even downloaded) is easy because it's easy for you" yeah ok got it.