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I created a language learning method that helps you learn French in 4 months

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I created a language learning method that helps you learn French in 4 months

#1
Many of my friends are language lovers. The issue, though, is that the options you have when it comes to language learning are very limited.

1) Duolingo isn't really that efficient and doesn't prepare you for real-life scenarios. People spend years going from streaks to streaks without being able to learn anything.

2) Learning with tutors is expensive, and paying per hour is not sustainable for most people.

3) Language immersion programs are really expensive.

So, I listened to my friends' complaints and created a French language course designed to address most of the shortcomings of existing language learning tools.

The pilot went well, because 9 out of 10 of my friends were able to go from being beginners to having 20+ minute-long conversations with native speakers.

I'm still fine-tuning the whole thing before I bring it to market and wanted to know if you're interested in joining our waitlist.

We'll start with French, then Korean, Spanish, etc.

You in?

Re: I created a language learning method that helps you learn French in 4 months

#2
I've been learning German recently - at a slow pace, I'm busy. I'm intrigued, though skeptical. I'll certainly give it a shot if there's a German version.

If your tool is really as good as you claim you'll have a lot of word of mouth recommendations in the language learning community, but everyone has seen "fluent in 3 months through x special method" so I doubt people will give it a shot if it's paid.

I recommend offering a free trial of the start of the course so that people can see for themselves.

20 minute conversations sounds like B1 at a minimum. Four months to B1 is pretty much impossible even with people studying all day, at least with German. How did you do it? How many hours of study are done in these four months? What's your approach?

I presume you're a native French speaker (the "help you" rather than "helps you" is a Frenchism in my experience). How do you intend to create the other courses?

Good luck. This sounds interesting.

Re: I created a language learning method that helps you learn French in 4 months

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I've been learning German recently - at a slow pace, I'm busy. I'm intrigued, though skeptical. I'll certainly give it a shot if there's a German version. If your tool is really as good as you claim you'll have a lot of word of mouth recommendations in the language learning community, but everyone has seen "fluent in 3 months through x special method" so I doubt people will give it a shot if it's paid. I recommend of…

I don't think the "Learn in 4 Months" method will work for most languages. Now that I read your comment, I know German is one of those languages.

Yes, I'm a French native. Languages like French and English are very easy to learn if you have the right method and dedication. We have the method, so we'll probably partner with natives of other languages to develop these courses.

And thank you for the nudge. I really appreciate it.

btw, what are things you'd consider when trying to buy a language course?

Re: I created a language learning method that helps you learn French in 4 months

#4
I'm all in favor of something new for learning languages, but hesitant to say I'm in on something when the description is this vague. Show some examples of what you are talking about and I might be interested, otherwise there isn't enough information here to really catch my attention.

Re: I created a language learning method that helps you learn French in 4 months

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post #3

I've been learning German recently - at a slow pace, I'm busy. I'm intrigued, though skeptical. I'll certainly give it a shot if there's a German version. If your tool is really as good as you claim you'll have a lot of word of mouth recommendations in the language learning community, but everyone has seen "fluent in 3 months through x special method" so I doubt people will give it a shot if it's paid. I recommend of…

I don't think the "Learn in 4 Months" method will work for most languages. Now that I read your comment, I know German is one of those languages. Yes, I'm a French native. Languages like French and English are very easy to learn if you have the right method and dedication. We have the method, so we'll probably partner with natives of other languages to develop these courses. And thank you for the nudge. I really appr…

I'm actually looking around for courses/textbooks at the moment. I'd say the things I'm looking for are: - Speaking practice and a focus on getting OK pronunciation early. At least according to the German Discord, it's important to get pronunciation correct from the start. If you don't it becomes very difficult to break bad habits across many hundreds of words.

- Effectiveness over dogma: I would prefer a course that focuses on teaching effectively through multiple different methods rather than being hyperfocused on one of them. If your secret is really as good as you claim you might not need this, but I'm sceptical.

- Practical vocabulary. Duolingo etc have a reputation for teaching you absolutely useless words and phrases. Particularly at the start it would be useful to beeline for a target, be that "get by on holiday" or "have a conversation with another learner/a native simplifying their language".

- Spaced repetition. I'm using Anki, but the decks aren't very good. Spaced repetition is basically a cheat code to learning, and if you integrate a good algorithm it will absolutely differentiate a course.

- Cost. I'm a student doing this in my free time. I don't want to spend lots of money, particularly when there are lots of good resources already out there. Why buy this over just using the many available resources? You have to offer something.

- Realism. I'd prefer "Learn in one year, one hour a day" that is truthful and realistic to "Learn in 3 months 10 minutes a day!" because I just know that that's untrue. - CEFR alignment. It just makes things easier. - Corniness gets on my nerves. Some videos are alright but please don't try to act.

I would recommend going into language learning communities - reddit, discord, etc - to see what they're looking for. You'd also benefit a lot from sharing some more details about your course.

Re: I created a language learning method that helps you learn French in 4 months

#9
No offense but I'm not quite sure this post really belongs to HN in the current form:

- it's not really a Ask HN

- it's not really a Show HN as there's not much to see

- it's not a regular post

It's relatable and appealing to the curious but it does not actually satisfy curiosity. It looks like an ad that takes care of not mentioning the product name :-)

I believe we might be many who are a bit disappointed after reading this.

Re: I created a language learning method that helps you learn French in 4 months

#10
post #9

No offense but I'm not quite sure this post really belongs to HN in the current form: - it's not really a Ask HN - it's not really a Show HN as there's not much to see - it's not a regular post It's relatable and appealing to the curious but it does not actually satisfy curiosity. It looks like an ad that takes care of not mentioning the product name :-) I believe we might be many who are a bit disappointed after rea…

Agreed. The litmus test for me is "would HN would be a fun place to visit if front page was filled with similar post to this (posts advertising their app idea and trying to gather an mail list)" - and the answer is nope.

Best of luck OP, but I think you should post again once your idea has more substance.

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