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Vermont Attorney General's dog sniffs out electronic storage devices

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Re: Vermont Attorney General's dog sniffs out electronic storage devices

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The officers are busy. Last year nearly 800 cyber tips filtered through the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. Officers are carrying out search warrants on a weekly basis and some electronic files have been spread so widely that officers know their hash value by heart.

It’s difficult to say whether sexual exploitation and the spread of sex abuse materials has actually increased dramatically in recent years.

This whole article feels like a cute dog story with barely any journalism about something that is very threatening to the Internet. Was it was submitted to trigger debate about propaganda rather than on the merits of the reporting?

I imagine there is a lot of useful statistical analysis to be done on the list of filenames, their metadata, and various content hashes which could absolutely answer some questions about the patterms of CSAM over the past decade.

Re: Vermont Attorney General's dog sniffs out electronic storage devices

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>Mojo can quickly sniff out devices like hard drives, flash drives or SD cards — often leading officers straight to the evidence they need to make an arrest.

Do nand flash chips and magnetic platters have a distinct smell? lol :)

I'm not saying its impossible but really really outlandish

Re: Vermont Attorney General's dog sniffs out electronic storage devices

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>Mojo can quickly sniff out devices like hard drives, flash drives or SD cards — often leading officers straight to the evidence they need to make an arrest. Do nand flash chips and magnetic platters have a distinct smell? lol :) I'm not saying its impossible but really really outlandish

The article mentions the dog can smell the off-gassing from electronics. There’s probably a lot of false positives.

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>Mojo can quickly sniff out devices like hard drives, flash drives or SD cards — often leading officers straight to the evidence they need to make an arrest. Do nand flash chips and magnetic platters have a distinct smell? lol :) I'm not saying its impossible but really really outlandish

Yes! I saw a presentation a couple of years back from police dog trainers. Different dogs would specialise in different things - drugs, guns, and amazingly - hard disks! They train them specifically to do so. What blew my mind was the reward was always just a tennis ball. But the dog was soooo happy to get the ball for a short amount of play when it did well.

Re: Vermont Attorney General's dog sniffs out electronic storage devices

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>Mojo can quickly sniff out devices like hard drives, flash drives or SD cards — often leading officers straight to the evidence they need to make an arrest. Do nand flash chips and magnetic platters have a distinct smell? lol :) I'm not saying its impossible but really really outlandish

Nintendo uses bittrex in the plastic for their Switch cartridges to stop kids from swallowing them. Potentially this is more widespread in the SD card industry? (I don’t have any around me to test-lick unfortunately.)

Re: Vermont Attorney General's dog sniffs out electronic storage devices

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The officers are busy. Last year nearly 800 cyber tips filtered through the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. Officers are carrying out search warrants on a weekly basis and some electronic files have been spread so widely that officers know their hash value by heart. It’s difficult to say whether sexual exploitation and the spread of sex abuse materials has actually increased dramatically in recent y…

Network effects are definitely interesting to law enforcement. There was an interesting podcast about one of the sites that got busted which was being run out of Korea: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/131/

Re: Vermont Attorney General's dog sniffs out electronic storage devices

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>Mojo can quickly sniff out devices like hard drives, flash drives or SD cards — often leading officers straight to the evidence they need to make an arrest. Do nand flash chips and magnetic platters have a distinct smell? lol :) I'm not saying its impossible but really really outlandish

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Re: Vermont Attorney General's dog sniffs out electronic storage devices

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>Mojo can quickly sniff out devices like hard drives, flash drives or SD cards — often leading officers straight to the evidence they need to make an arrest. Do nand flash chips and magnetic platters have a distinct smell? lol :) I'm not saying its impossible but really really outlandish

Yes! I saw a presentation a couple of years back from police dog trainers. Different dogs would specialise in different things - drugs, guns, and amazingly - hard disks! They train them specifically to do so. What blew my mind was the reward was always just a tennis ball. But the dog was soooo happy to get the ball for a short amount of play when it did well.

Drug-sniffing dogs are a myth[1]. They're used as a pretext for illegal searches, not to detect drugs.

I suspect this is similar. "Detecting off-gassing" is vague enough to sound like it makes sense, but there's a variety of materials in electronic devices and many of the ones that off-gas (like plastic) are found in millions of other products.

1. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-03/fact-check-are-drug-d...

Re: Vermont Attorney General's dog sniffs out electronic storage devices

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>Mojo can quickly sniff out devices like hard drives, flash drives or SD cards — often leading officers straight to the evidence they need to make an arrest. Do nand flash chips and magnetic platters have a distinct smell? lol :) I'm not saying its impossible but really really outlandish

> Do nand flash chips and magnetic platters have a distinct smell? lol :)

Maybe a flash drive has a different smell after it has been used by a CP offender?

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